It's so big!

jsimmons · Post by **jsimmons** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:50 am

Well, I received my Mueller Eraticator yesterday, and it's a HUGE scope! It makes my CZ-452 look kinda puny, and dwarfs the APV I already have. I'm almost concerned that the rifle won't make weight for Hunter class.

And many thanks to Mary for getting those rings to me this week.

_Shorty · Post by **_Shorty** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:51 am

Which 452? If you just got the 8.5-25x50mm scope then their site says it weighs 22 ounces. My Tasco weighs 19.6 ounces, and my 453 Varmint makes weight. (Barely.)

Innocent · Post by **Innocent** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:27 am

Jsimmons,
Let me know if the rings are too low, 50MM is a large bell usually requiring a higher mount.
Mary

jsimmons · Post by **jsimmons** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:48 am

It's a 452 Style. I also have a 452 Silhouette.

There's about 3/16 inch between the bottom of the objective bell and the top of the barrel (thank the stars for tapered barrels). I can use the bikini cover with no problem at all.

I was more concerned about bolt clearance. It's close, but the bolt does clear.

One problem I do have is that I can't move the scope far enough back for my taste (I had the same problem with the APV). I've got the back ring mounted as far back on the receiver as I can get it, and scope is mounted as far back in the rings as I can get it. I wear glasses, but not while shooting, but I may try it though to see if that'll fix the scope positioning issue. I have some BKL offset rings on backorder from Brownells but I don't know when they're gonna be shipped.

As far as weight is concerned, the Style weighs 5-15, and the Eraticator weighs 1-6 (or 1-4, depending on where you get your info), but the Style I have has a metal magazine well, so if it's not already over weight, it's REAL close (within an ounce?). I have a plastic magazine well on the way, just in case. I think I'm also going to remove the swivel studs.

I'll see about posting pictures of my APV-equipped style next to my Eraticator-equipped Style so you guys can see the difference in size.

jsimmons · Post by **jsimmons** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:52 am

_Shorty wrote:Which 452? If you just got the 8.5-25x50mm scope then their site says it weighs 22 ounces. My Tasco weighs 19.6 ounces, and my 453 Varmint makes weight. (Barely.)

The 453 Varmint is almost a full pound heavier than my Style/Silhouette. I don't have the battery installed in my scope, so maybe that'll help a bit.

BlauBear · Post by **BlauBear** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 2:12 pm

jsimmons wrote:One problem I do have is that I can't move the scope far enough back for my taste (I had the same problem with the APV). I've got the back ring mounted as far back on the receiver as I can get it, and scope is mounted as far back in the rings as I can get it. I wear glasses, but not while shooting, but I may try it though to see if that'll fix the scope positioning issue. I have some BKL offset rings on backorder from Brownells but I don't know when they're gonna be shipped.

That's the fix I used on a Varmint built with a Weaver KT15. If you want a set of the off set BKL rings, send me a message.

jsimmons · Post by **jsimmons** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 2:32 pm

BlauBear wrote:
jsimmons wrote:One problem I do have is that I can't move the scope far enough back for my taste (I had the same problem with the APV). I've got the back ring mounted as far back on the receiver as I can get it, and scope is mounted as far back in the rings as I can get it. I wear glasses, but not while shooting, but I may try it though to see if that'll fix the scope positioning issue. I have some BKL offset rings on backorder from Brownells but I don't know when they're gonna be shipped.
That's the fix I used on a Varmint built with a Weaver KT15. If you want a set of the off set BKL rings, send me a message.

Are the offsets at least as high as the 257's? How much do you want for them?

BlauBear · Post by **BlauBear** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:16 pm

These are the BKL 274's - no box, but they don't look used, and they're the same height as the 257's. $25 plus shipping? I also have a new BKL 260 (drop compensated unitized mount) for $50 if anyone is interested.

jsimmons · Post by **jsimmons** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:07 am

I finally got around to weighing my rifle. Configured as below:

CZ-452 Style
Metal magazine well
Mueller Eraticator (with the bikini cover on it)
BKL-254 cantilever scope mount
Empty plastic magazine

It comes it at 7.8 pounds - well under the maximum allowed weight in Hunter class.