Which Model for Silhouettes?

ppkny · Post by **ppkny** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:38 am

I also put a Timmeny trigger in my CZ. 100% improvement over the stock trigger or even the Brooks trigger kit. Highly recommed doing this even though you have to cut out some material to get it in. I bought it from Chicken George for a great price, maybe he has some more.
ppkny

Jetmugg · Post by **Jetmugg** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:23 am

My Varmint is also equipped with a Timney trigger. If you are planning to use one of these triggers, talk to Chicken George to make sure that Timney has finally worked all of the bugs out of their design. Their first production triggers for the 452 had some issues.

Steve.

BlauBear · Post by **BlauBear** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:25 am

jneihouse wrote:
but I like to tinker, something you don't do to a custom rifle.
Cause if you do Evelio will break all your fingers

Kitty

Nah - 'cause then he'd have to build a trigger to fit the re-arranged digits. However, he would figure out something I don't want to know...

edgehit · Post by **edgehit** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:16 pm

I've owned both the Silhouette and Varmint models. I loved the Silhouette's out of box accuracy and the stock. It was too light and twitchy to hold. I thought the Varmint would cure the twitchiness, but I couldn't hold that stock.

Some guys mix an epoxy with lead shot and fill the Silhouette model forearm with it. I 've shot one like that and it helps the twitchiness. Maybe buy a Varmint and get a Silhouette stock?

You definitely have to budget money for a trigger replacement.

daisy · Post by **daisy** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:29 pm

edgehit wrote:I've owned both the Silhouette and Varmint models. I loved the Silhouette's out of box accuracy and the stock. It was too light and twitchy to hold. I thought the Varmint would cure the twitchiness, but I couldn't hold that stock.

Some guys mix an epoxy with lead shot and fill the Silhouette model forearm with it. I 've shot one like that and it helps the twitchiness. Maybe buy a Varmint and get a Silhouette stock?

You definitely have to budget money for a trigger replacement.

Do you have any more details on how they fill the fore end? Do they remove a lot of material before they fill?

Thanks
Daisy

daisy · Post by **daisy** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:29 pm

edgehit wrote:I've owned both the Silhouette and Varmint models. I loved the Silhouette's out of box accuracy and the stock. It was too light and twitchy to hold. I thought the Varmint would cure the twitchiness, but I couldn't hold that stock.

Some guys mix an epoxy with lead shot and fill the Silhouette model forearm with it. I 've shot one like that and it helps the twitchiness. Maybe buy a Varmint and get a Silhouette stock?

You definitely have to budget money for a trigger replacement.

Do you have any more details on how they fill the fore end? Do they remove a lot of material before they fill?

Thanks
Daisy

daisy · Post by **daisy** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:30 pm

Edgehit

Do you have any more details on how they fill the fore end? Do they remove a lot of material before they fill?

Thanks
Daisy

edgehit · Post by **edgehit** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:38 pm

I'm here!

No I don't know exactly how it was done. The CZ Silhouette stock is injection molded from a material that's really easy to carve with a Dremel tool. I would imagine you hollow out the forearm and fill it with bird shot until the rifle balances well for you. Then mix up some epoxy with the pre-determined amount of bird shot and pour it into place.

I think you'll be happy with this rifle because the stock is the right shape.

Definitely get the Timney trigger!

silhouette13 · Post by **silhouette13** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:13 am

does any one know where i may find a cz silhouette stock to tinker with,the website doesnt list it and there rep for my area cant get me one.
i have a varmint with adjustable sear and the only thing i dont like is the stock ergonomics.
i would like to get my hands on a used(hopefully) silo stock to tinker with the barrel channel.
i have seen some stocks built up and painted on this forum, they look good but i barely make hunter weight now.

dave

Jetmugg · Post by **Jetmugg** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:27 am

A couple of us have set up Varmint barrelled actions in Silhouette stocks. One issue to consider is the fact that the silhouette stock is fairly bendable to begin with. The next issue is that you have to remove quite a bit of material from the barrel channel in order for the Varmint barrel to fit. Then the silhouette stock becomes extra floppy, particularly in the forend.

You can sometimes buy a pre-owned Silo stock for about $80 or so, but if I was in your position, I would resist the temptation.

Jason on this site has modified a factory Varmint stock to be a pretty close replica of a Pharr-style stock. That's the blue painted one you may have seen. I think that turned out solid and rigid.

You could also start with a Boyd's or one of the other aftermarket laminated stocks and customize it to fit your needs.

Or, you could saveyour extra pennies and buy an Anschutz 1712, which is what I eventually did, and what Jason did as well. That's not saying that the CZ isn't a perfectly capable rifle, just that you are trying to make it more and more like a 1712. Why not just buy the 1712 and be done with it?

SteveM.

edgehit · Post by **edgehit** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:51 pm

I agree with Jetmug. I had the CZ Varmint and knew I needed a better stock. I looked around at the available options and saw that my investment was going to double. And I still didn't have the trigger I wanted. I sold out and bought the 1712 and have not looked back. I don't own any CZ's, nor do I have a desire to get another.

Jetmugg · Post by **Jetmugg** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:56 am

I still have my Varmint, the barreled action has been put back into it's factory stock. I think I may shoot it in the Vintage Benchrest "Sporter" class this year, with the Timney trigger and a BSA 8-32X scope. It will also be a "backup" rifle for SB silhouette.

SteveM.

silhouette13 · Post by **silhouette13** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:12 pm

thanks for the input, i may take a piece of pine and whittle a bit and see what i come up with if it works out i have a buddy with a birdseye maple blank.
dave

#57 · Post by **#57** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:09 am

I had some time to kill this afternoon, and got to handle a 452 american and a 453 varmit. I like the feel of the varmit but it comes with a "set trigger". It runs about $80 more than the single stage trigger on the american. is the set trigger enough of an up grade to be worth it or is it just hype? enquiring minds need to know! #57

silhouette13 · Post by **silhouette13** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:26 am

the 453 has a set trigger so if it is set below 2# you cant shoot both classes. if you have it set at 2# then you lose the benifit of the set anyways so i would think that it is not worth $80. i would get the 452 V and spend the $80 on a automation souloutions adjustable sear from brownells, it has made all the difference in the world .mine is very crisp. keep the stock spring because the brooks kit light springs make it hard to get it up to 2# that is providing Eric gets them out his door in a timly manner anyways.

dave

Which Model for Silhouettes?

cz452

Timney.

Been there, done that.....

Still have mine.