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Steve, I believe it's on the NRA site. I'll do some checking and post it if I find it. Also Greg Conner at the NRA could provide.steve b. wrote:hey all,
i need to find a list of all the small bore silhouette national champions for the past 20 years.
is there a list that has this info?
thanks
s.
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The book that the NRA sends with its Nationals registration forms has them listed in there, and of course I usually have 5 laying around and now that I am looking, can't find one!
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Same here Jim, I sent a note to Greg as they must hav it softcopy too.Jim Beckley wrote:The book that the NRA sends with its Nationals registration forms has them listed in there, and of course I usually have 5 laying around and now that I am looking, can't find one!
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Found a 02 book. Standard Rifle-1978-Manuel Lastiri,79-Norman Harris, 80-Harry Lucker,81-Earl Hines, 82-Conard Bernhardt, 83-84 John Rost, 85-Marguerite Everheart-Hazey, 86-Manuel Ortega, 87-Rudolfo Rizzo, 88-G. David Tubb, 89-90 Troy Lawton, 91- Robert Massey, 92-Marco Barriga, 93-Marguerite Everheart, 94-Troy Lawton, 95- Marco Barriga, 96-Troy Lawton, 97-Marco Barriga, 98-99 Tim Kurreck, 2000- Edgardo Ontiveros,2001-Cathy Winstead.
Hunter Rifle: 1985- Conard Bernhardt, 86-87 Troy Lawton, 88-91- G. David Tubb, 92-Adam Satthoff, 93-Timothy Inman, 94- Dennis Martinen, 95- Mark W. Boso, 96-97 Troy Lawton, 98-99 Cathy Winstead, 2000- Tim Kurreck, 01- Troy Lawton.
Hunter Rifle: 1985- Conard Bernhardt, 86-87 Troy Lawton, 88-91- G. David Tubb, 92-Adam Satthoff, 93-Timothy Inman, 94- Dennis Martinen, 95- Mark W. Boso, 96-97 Troy Lawton, 98-99 Cathy Winstead, 2000- Tim Kurreck, 01- Troy Lawton.
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Steve,
Here is a link to this year's results...
http://www.nrahq.org/compete/champ4.asp
I have my 2006 book here at the office....If you'll email me at
[email protected]
I'll photocopy the historical results pages which have 1978 to 2005 results in smallbore rifle and 1985 to 2005 results in hunter rifle, winning scores included and fax them to you. I believe that Agustin Sanchez Jr. has swept the standard and hunter classes since Lawton's win at Ben Avery in 05...Someone with a more current book would have the most recent scores. Don't know where mine got off to...
Kitty
Here is a link to this year's results...
http://www.nrahq.org/compete/champ4.asp
I have my 2006 book here at the office....If you'll email me at
[email protected]
I'll photocopy the historical results pages which have 1978 to 2005 results in smallbore rifle and 1985 to 2005 results in hunter rifle, winning scores included and fax them to you. I believe that Agustin Sanchez Jr. has swept the standard and hunter classes since Lawton's win at Ben Avery in 05...Someone with a more current book would have the most recent scores. Don't know where mine got off to...
Kitty
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I will let you guys know, and if I can get some extra copies, I will send them out to you guys.
Bringing silhouette into PS is an uphill battle, but I'll get it in there. Just gotta get all "Charlie Wilson" on the industry.
I will be a few months before it prints though, PS has a big backlog of my stuff.
Thanks again to everyone for their help.
s.
Bringing silhouette into PS is an uphill battle, but I'll get it in there. Just gotta get all "Charlie Wilson" on the industry.
I will be a few months before it prints though, PS has a big backlog of my stuff.
Thanks again to everyone for their help.
s.
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I just let mine lapse for that reason. The BR stuff isn't my bag, and Calfee's series of musings seems to have gone away (which were great).Jason wrote:Please do, and if possible give enough notice that I might be able to get my hands on a copy. The standard PS articles don't really hold my attention anymore so I don't subscribe.
I too would like to know as well when your articles would be out Steve....
Usually shooting scores right in class, too bad its the class below my classification!
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At this time, PS is printing my articles. I think they have printed about a half dozen or so, but there are a few things different for me at PS.
The first thing is that I don't have as much control over what gets printed or when things get printed. It's because I don't have a big following there, and the magazine is really about BR (well, it's initial inception).
So, I can give you all estimates about specific article print dates, but that can change without my knowledge or control.
Second, Dave the editor has been very good to work with, and he's letting me pick my own topics and such. I sorta lucked out with getting hooked up with him via an inside connection.
The Game Plan -
Dave is looking to me for more rimfire related stuff ( i still do some centerfire stuff, but as you all know, rimfire is my passion).
It's my intention to re-introduce the sport of smallbore silhouette to the readers over the next year. I also want to use my background in rimfire benchrest and apply it to smallbore silhouette. Just about every accuracy advancement in silhouette has it's roots in the benchrest game, and I think we should continue that. I see some things that silhouette shooters are doing to their rifles that either hurts accuracy, or makes no difference, and I would like to test that stuff out and present some solid data for you all to consider. With that info, everyone can make their own decisions.
There are also some issues like coldbore shots and POI changes that need more research. I have all the testing equipment to do that (rail guns, ect..)
I would also like to make the sport grow and work on getting some shooters to try it out for the first time. Silhouette is different in that it's such a laidback and friendly group of people. It's not about the money race, but about dedication to the art of offhand shooting, and about helping your competitiors. I have often spotted for my toughest competitors, and tried to help them as much as I could. They have always returned the favor. That never ceases to impress me; the overall quality and sportsmanship of this unique discipline.
As a little sidenote for those who have my book, the title of that book was based on two shooters. One was my former shooting coach who I mention in the book, and the other is a older gentleman named Joe Brennan. We used to shoot side by side here in Vegas at our monthly silhouette match, and he was so darn good. If he shot under 30, it was a bad day. But, overshadowing his great skill was a kind and giving person, and he spent many hours helping me shoot better. Everything from spotting, advice, to just the simple kind words of encouragement; these all had a tremendous impact on me. He is a rifleman as true as one could be, a great silhouette shooters, and the title of my book is in part due to his person. - just fyi for those who have the book.
I'm also gonna shine the light on many of our great shooters, coaches, and smiths. For the amount of skill and dedication they have, they get virtually zero recognition. I'm gonna change that.
Closing Thoughts -
I'm not gonna ask any of you to sign up for the magazine. I'm still very bent about what the owner (dirtbag) of SCN did and how he robbed so many readers. At this time, he has made no effort to return their money, and from what I gather, he couldn't care less to do so.
But I also can't copy and post entire articles of the magazine; it has a copyright. But I do have a plan.
- I get a few extra copies of PS every month. I send some out to various vendors and such that I need to leverage (yeah, I'm honest about that stuff), and it leaves me a few extra. I have no problem mailing the remainders out to you guys when a silhouette article prints, but I don't want it to be the same people every time, so I'll keep a list running. This way, you will get to see the article and content for free and make up you mind if it's worth it for future info.
So that's the story and game plan for bringing silhouette into PS.
s.
The first thing is that I don't have as much control over what gets printed or when things get printed. It's because I don't have a big following there, and the magazine is really about BR (well, it's initial inception).
So, I can give you all estimates about specific article print dates, but that can change without my knowledge or control.
Second, Dave the editor has been very good to work with, and he's letting me pick my own topics and such. I sorta lucked out with getting hooked up with him via an inside connection.
The Game Plan -
Dave is looking to me for more rimfire related stuff ( i still do some centerfire stuff, but as you all know, rimfire is my passion).
It's my intention to re-introduce the sport of smallbore silhouette to the readers over the next year. I also want to use my background in rimfire benchrest and apply it to smallbore silhouette. Just about every accuracy advancement in silhouette has it's roots in the benchrest game, and I think we should continue that. I see some things that silhouette shooters are doing to their rifles that either hurts accuracy, or makes no difference, and I would like to test that stuff out and present some solid data for you all to consider. With that info, everyone can make their own decisions.
There are also some issues like coldbore shots and POI changes that need more research. I have all the testing equipment to do that (rail guns, ect..)
I would also like to make the sport grow and work on getting some shooters to try it out for the first time. Silhouette is different in that it's such a laidback and friendly group of people. It's not about the money race, but about dedication to the art of offhand shooting, and about helping your competitiors. I have often spotted for my toughest competitors, and tried to help them as much as I could. They have always returned the favor. That never ceases to impress me; the overall quality and sportsmanship of this unique discipline.
As a little sidenote for those who have my book, the title of that book was based on two shooters. One was my former shooting coach who I mention in the book, and the other is a older gentleman named Joe Brennan. We used to shoot side by side here in Vegas at our monthly silhouette match, and he was so darn good. If he shot under 30, it was a bad day. But, overshadowing his great skill was a kind and giving person, and he spent many hours helping me shoot better. Everything from spotting, advice, to just the simple kind words of encouragement; these all had a tremendous impact on me. He is a rifleman as true as one could be, a great silhouette shooters, and the title of my book is in part due to his person. - just fyi for those who have the book.
I'm also gonna shine the light on many of our great shooters, coaches, and smiths. For the amount of skill and dedication they have, they get virtually zero recognition. I'm gonna change that.
Closing Thoughts -
I'm not gonna ask any of you to sign up for the magazine. I'm still very bent about what the owner (dirtbag) of SCN did and how he robbed so many readers. At this time, he has made no effort to return their money, and from what I gather, he couldn't care less to do so.
But I also can't copy and post entire articles of the magazine; it has a copyright. But I do have a plan.
- I get a few extra copies of PS every month. I send some out to various vendors and such that I need to leverage (yeah, I'm honest about that stuff), and it leaves me a few extra. I have no problem mailing the remainders out to you guys when a silhouette article prints, but I don't want it to be the same people every time, so I'll keep a list running. This way, you will get to see the article and content for free and make up you mind if it's worth it for future info.
So that's the story and game plan for bringing silhouette into PS.
s.
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Thanks, Steven. I showed off the SCN magazine you sent me and many guys at the range were interested in it. I hope they didn't subscribe and then get ripped off like so many others. None have mentioned it if they did. A few already subscribe to PS, but very few since we don't have much of a benchrest crowd. We have nearly every other type of precision shooting competition (no cowboy action and stuff) as my range is geared toward competitors, and I bet having an issue of PS lying around would generate some subscriptions. That said, I'd like to be on the list again with one caveat. Out here in rainy and cold western WA, our attendance at matches usually declines somewhat during Dec/Jan/Feb , so I think it would be better for me to be on the rotation of issues later rather than sooner. Thanks again for all you do for shooting, specifically smallbore.
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