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propwash · Post by **propwash** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:55 pm

If you read Outdoor Life you may want to try Field and Stream instead...I know I will never buy this magazine again as long as Zumbo is still on their staff http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/sh ... ?t=171392

Koldkut · Post by **Koldkut** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:16 pm

propwash wrote:If you read Outdoor Life you may want to try Field and Stream instead...I know I will never buy this magazine again as long as Zumbo is still on their staff http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/sh ... ?t=171392

the link from there has been taken down...guess they came under fire....

http://outdoorlife.blogs.com/zumbo/2007/02/

and here is an article about it...

http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_102081.asp

propwash · Post by **propwash** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:31 pm

The blog link is gone but the RFC thread is pretty hot and lists links to his sponsors...I have already asked them to pull their support for this bafoon. I shoot smallbore silhouette but I'm also quite fond of my AR for NRA highpower and service rifle...in addition to that I carry an AR in the field for the DOD and this idiot is basically calling me a terrorist...Remington pulled support a day or two ago and hopefully everyone else will let the door slam shut on him as well. I just didn't want this to go unnoticed by ya'll amidst all the Nascar shuffle a few days ago

Koldkut · Post by **Koldkut** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:37 pm

propwash wrote:The blog link is gone but the RFC thread is pretty hot and lists links to his sponsors...I have already asked them to pull their support for this bafoon. I shoot smallbore silhouette but I'm also quite fond of my AR for NRA highpower and service rifle...in addition to that I carry an AR in the field for the DOD and this idiot is basically calling me a terrorist...Remington pulled support a day or two ago and hopefully everyone else will let the door slam shut on him as well. I just didn't want this to go unnoticed by ya'll amidst all the Nascar shuffle a few days ago

here is someone who copied and posted all his comments.

http://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2007/02 ... ction.html

GeoNLR · Post by **GeoNLR** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:21 pm

Now that's funny, I don't care who you are!

Jason · Post by **Jason** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:49 pm

Here's my take on the issue that I wrote on one of the muzzleloader forums that I read.

There are career-ending mistakes that can be made in almost every line of work. In some careers (like firefighting), mistakes can be life ending instead of just career ending. For me at Microsoft, I have access to a lot of information and source code that would be a big enough deal that it would end my career in IT and security if I handed it out to the wrong people. Even if I apologized for it later, my career would deservedly be over because I didn't think through the consenquences of my actions before I did it. As sad as it would be for me, I would deserve it and I'd be a lesson for others in my industry when they were in the same position with the same type of choice.

Jim did pretty much that exact thing in his career. I do believe that his apology was sincere and that he realizes just how big a mistake that he has made. I also believe that it took a mindset of "I don't use that kind of rifle and I don't like the look of it so it should be banned!" for him to write what he did. I have no respect for anyone with an "I don't do it so no one else should be able to either" attitude, whether its related to guns or not. As sad as it is for Jim, he made his bed and now he has to lie in it. It could be worse. He could have forgotten to cap his rifle on a cape buffalo hunt.

He's starting to get up there in years anyway. By the time I get to his age, I want to be retired and living for myself instead of for a paycheck from someone else.

dryfire · Post by **dryfire** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:03 pm

I have tried three times this evening to emaill Outdoor Life at their editors mail address [email protected]. It would appear that this mail address
has been shut down also. So as well as shielding Mr. Zumbo OL has also
decided to turn their backs on their readership. Time to turn our backs on them.
Andrew

BlauBear · Post by **BlauBear** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:14 am

Remington had an announcement on their homepage yesterday that they had severed ties with Zumbo. It's really sad - he could have done the community a service by admitting AR/AK style rifles made him uncomfortable, and that we should be sensitive to non-shooters that might be bothered as well. I would like to see us spend more time educating non-shooters. If we make our sport more approachable, it might even recruit some new people!

steel_ram · Post by **steel_ram** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:09 am

The guy screwed up big time! No doubt about that. He's been severely punished and no doubt is suffering from it.

Lets not forget that Zumbo's 40+ year history has successfully promoted hunting and shooting sports. His contribution far outways this one error.

The greatest publicization of his now infamous, but erased blog has been in fact by gun owners. The Brady bunch can't seem to write anything themselves without looking like the idiots they are.

I own 'black rifles', and yes I get PO'd when I see comments like those Jim Zumbo posted, but what do we really want. Do American gun owners really need to grind this guy down to the souls of his boots, and then urinate on them? Crows treat their wounded better!

Tlee · Post by **Tlee** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:45 pm

Zumbo posts again... Hopefully this will make us all stronger/wiser;

http://nugeboard.tednugent.com/ubb/Foru ... 86904.html

ter · Post by **ter** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:22 pm

He got what he deserved.
Too bad he can't give back some of the 40 years of a life that every sportsman dreams about. A true second amendment guy deserved those opportunities.
I also hope this makes the shooting community wiser. We stand together or fall together, period.
Ter

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