Rules Question

[chuck d]

Looking at a TC Venture- has a lot of nice features for short money- but only a 3 shot mag. Will this be a problem for a Hunter class rifle?

thanks
chuck

[Bob259]

Looking at a TC Venture- has a lot of nice features for short money- but only a 3 shot mag. Will this be a problem for a Hunter class rifle?

thanks
chuck

Nope.. TIka T3's are 3 shot mags as well, you just have to load one with 2 and one with 3 at the ready command.

[Jason]

Of you can just pretend you have a blind magazine like the rest of us and push each round down into the magazine from the top for hunter class.

[Jerry G]

Why would you have to wait for the ready comand to put bullets into your mag or didn't I understand the statement?

You do have to wait for the ready before you can insert the mag into the rifle.

[Bob259]

Why would you have to wait for the ready comand to put bullets into your mag or didn't I understand the statement?

You do have to wait for the ready before you can insert the mag into the rifle.

Jerry, My friend shoots a Tika and he asked and was told at the HP Nationals, that for Hunter rifle he had to load the shells into the magazine 'AFTER' the ready comand. The reason is if he did not the shooters with the internal magazines were at a disadvantage. They said in SB everyone has a 5 shot magazine which is not so in HP so you had to load the magazines at the ready command for the Hunter rifle portion for Std Rifle you do not. Some one else also asked and a differnt Range officer told them the same thing.

I shoot a single shot so it didn't affect me.

[lone ringer]

Why would you have to wait for the ready command to put bullets into your mag or didn't I understand the statement?

You do have to wait for the ready before you can insert the mag into the rifle.

Jerry, in sb you can start with loaded mags before the ready command in HP you can't but if you are going to load one at a time through the mag there is no reason you could not have an empty mag inserted on the rifle before the ready command. I know they rules prevent us from keeping mags on rifles when they are on the rack but other than that I do not see a problem and I do not think anybody would have a problem with that scenario either.

In the worst case scenario if you want to load one at a time and you do not want to break any rule, after the ready command load two or three rounds on the mag insert it and after you fire the two or three times load one at a time from the top through the mag just like the ones that have blind mags, that is if you only have one mag or don't care to change mags.

[CZforlife]

Do they make a single shot adapter for your rifle? I know on some rifles they make them. They had them for my CZ and Anschutz. May be worth a look? IDK

[Bob259]

Do they make a single shot adapter for your rifle? I know on some rifles they make them. They had them for my CZ and Anschutz. May be worth a look? IDK

Pat, for Hunter rifle (SB or HP) you cannot use a single shot adapter if the rifle is not a single shot from the factory in Hunter you have to load via the magazine.

[CZforlife]

Really? That's kinda doofy but I can see why too. Alot of range officers would be getting confused!

[RBriscoe]

The "rule" against using a single shot adapter is a rather bizarre affair. The rule does not actually say that you can not install one, but the committee says that it does. A reading of the plain and ordinary meaning of the words of the rule compels a result contrary to what the committee reportedly says it means (I asked). So, unless you want to go to Nationals for the specific purpose of being excluded and protesting the result I would suggest using an action which is either manufactured as a single shot (e.g. solid bottom 700 clone) or an Anschutz which currently are manufactured as a repeater with a single shot adapter from the factory. Just how one is supposed to determine whether a single shot Anschutz had the single shot adapter installed at the factory or some time thereafter I do not know.

Whether the match directors at any match other than Nationals care one way or the other remains to be seen. It could turn into a circumstance like that of the Cowboy Lever Action event where fiber optic front sights are welcome everywhere except Nationals.

It is what it is.