rule question

[thskeer]

My 1712 has Marv's bottom metal and it appears to have been bedded too low. As a result the magazine binds when fully inserted, and is a BEAR to get out.

Can I use the Annie mag with the red extended plastic bottom in hunter class? It would allow me to get the mag out more easily, until I can get the bedding or bottom metal fixed.

Thoughts???? Tom

[metalhead]

Since I do not know you, or who you are, and if it really does have one of my precision machined trigger guards on your rifle, not some cheap clone from Texas with the square, non contoured look for what I was once famous for, why don't you just send it back to the F-Tard who put the rifle together in the first place? Why the hell do you bring my name into this when I had nothing to do with the building of this cull misfit POS rifle in the first place. What, is Houston out of you zip code??

However, if you have the skills to remove the two, yes I said two, screws that hold the top and bottom of said rifle together, then take the gun apart and then just try to loosen the two, once again two screws, that hold and align the magazine guide and adjust accordingly untill the magazine falls out in your hand when you want it to... Then put it back together.

Pretty easy job regardless of your geographical location....If you can't get er done...Please consult the x-spurts from Fort Smith.

[Jetmugg]

My understanding of the rules is that you can use the longer magazine in the rifle, as long as you don't use the bottom of the magazine as a support point for your front hand.

SteveM

[CWS]

Marv, ya gotta quit sugar-coating this stuff... some folks might mistake the more subtle message in your prose as approval.

[metalhead]

CWS Not sugar coating anything at all....Just me showing some "manners" as I have so many times been counseled by the two boobs who have the most post counts up in here, even if one wants to keep changing his screen name. Now that's not showing manners if you axe me!

Now really, just think about it for one minute, if the gun was bedded "to Low", the binding of the magazine could not be a problem with the trigger guard, because theoretically, the magazine would be well below the point of binding even if the magazine guide was alingened properly. If the gun was bedded way above centerline, then yes, that would be a problem with the issue of the magazine not fitting properly due the trigger guard fitting to tight to the magazine.

It really is not to hard, for a true professional in the business of building custom rifles, to inlet a flatop stock so the barreled action sits just .015 above centerline. But, unfortunately, for some that gone the cheap route, this continues to be a source of serious heartburn. So sorry for that. Just remember, Ya All's git what yo dun payed fer !.

I have heard so many complaints about rifles from people who I have never met, and that I had no part in building they now own, but have supplied machined parts for the last 15 years that it was an easy decision for me to take my tool and die, computer programming skills, and new technology design in a totally different direction and make way more muny without having to deal with the new shooters who just want sum ting cheap and then bitch about the masters and all their fancy rifles. You know what they say about the wanna be shooters, "just a bunch of bitchy little girlz"

Of course, present company excluded don't cha know.

[CWS]

The ONE thing wrong in your statement is that we don't always get what we pay for.... which was your original point, I think... But when you wrap it in nuances and asiatic-like subtlety, its elegance is often lost here. Go figure.

[metalhead]

CWS..I'm begiing to like you already, and I don't even know you. By the way, I had a real interesting conversation about Robertson Composite with one of my business partners from Round Rock a few days ago after he got home from the regional match in Winnsborro about his interaction with the mojito man from Houston.

Lord, I never knew my old pal pal had so many cuss works left in his vocabulary. Like I said, glad to be going in a different dirrection.

Cheers Brother, best of luck to you.

[Innocent]

Just me showing some "manners" as I have so many times been counseled by the two boobs who have the most post counts up in here, even if one wants to keep changing his screen name.

Being the youngest of six I've been called by all five names ahead of me plus a few others in my life, but a boob??? Well there is always room for another name on the list, I guess.
Lovely to see you are yourself Marv. How is the weather your way?
Innocent Mary

[Jim T.]

Marv said:

it was an easy decision for me to take my tool and die, computer programming skills, and new technology design in a totally different direction

So now we know where those Sudern Natchionals results are.

Marv:

After a truly f-ed up day of watching our Commander in Incompetence fire a true HERO of the war in Iraq it was soothing to get a laugh or two out of your posts. Don't take this board too seriously, since most here are just passing thru.

Jimbo "Elrod" T.

[metalhead]

Hey Mary... please don't git your panties in such a tight wad. These comments of mine were surely not directed at you sweetheart! I honestly think you are one of the good guys....er....girlz.

The two "boobs" are Bob one and Bob two. Ya All's know, B1 & B2, Fort Smith and the other X-Spurt from upstate NY. The two online x-spurts about custom rifles and master score acheiving shooting techniques and the rifles that are needed to achieve such illustrious results.

It's like, OK, maybe next year after I get healthy and stop coughing up blood in between posts and visits to the ER and then B2 saying perhaps I might move out of my momies basement once spring arives here in NY, then, Ya, Blah, Blah, Blah, I'm really going to move to AZ...Then, blah, blah, blah, Maybe I'll go to the big regional match in LA, next year. Hey, maybe I might even win a cheap Chinese folding knife in between relays, or a $25.00 pair of Korean binoculars. How freakin' sweet would that be ?

And for all of you that are interested, I'll bet for damn sure, that none of you will ever see the comprehenshive results, compiled for each day of competion, of this match or any other, what do you call it, a major, online before you get home like you do when you go to the CBC in Pe Ell !

Hey, it aint that hard to do.

They say shooting this sport is all about focusing on your spot and then following through. Winnsborro does a tremendous job on focusing on the spot, but the follow through with a comprehensive match report that is due to the people who enter is a disgrace to this great effort that David puts forth.!...

Is it really that hard to let the people know who are truley interested in what is going on at the regional match in LA? Has the freakin' oil spill migrated 100 miles north already to make this impossible? Hell, we do it here in PeEll at the CBC every year and all we have to deal with is the tweakers who live under every bridge between town and the range!

F lame on, F-Tards

[Bob259]

Well Marv I don't know how you dragged me into this BS of yours, seeing I don't even know you, but it's nice to get acknowledged by a Master Bull$hitter like yourself. Stay out of the rain you ol FTard you.

[hambone49]

Mr. Pearson, you are a priceless treasure, and I only wish you posted more. Bob, hope to meet you in Ridgway. I love boobs, especially in pairs.

[Jim T.]

Marv:

I can barely see my monitor as I write this since I am laughing so hard at your post. Priceless!!! So much so that I memorialize it below.

BTW, I wonder how many of those "tweekers" received a homebuyers credit from our Commander in Incompetence?

Jim

[BCloninger]

Mr. Pearson, you are a priceless treasure, and I only wish you posted more. Bob, hope to meet you in Ridgway. I love boobs, especially in pairs.

Sorry Hammy, just one Bob at Nationals - something about work this time.

[thskeer]

WOW. All this....... information!

OK, I'll clarify a little. The gun was bought used: The seller did not specify WHO bedded the action and bottom metal.

The action appers to be bedded as low as possible in the stock; it is a 17XX and the bolt release is just above the flat top of the stock. What I meant to specify was that the bottom metal was too low, meaning the distance from the bottom metal to the bottom of the action is too great. To try to confirm that I measured ( I used digital dial calipers- not sure I can read a vernier scale correctly) the action screws and they are 5mm longer that the other 17XX actions I have. Not that that is a great indicator, but adding that to the fact that the magazine release is below flush with the bottom metal, and the binding of the plastic base plate on the same bottom metal, I thought the first thing to do would be get the replacement magazine, then check the dimensions and cause(s) once I get home TDY.

Thanks for the info.

Tom