Is a "kisser" allowed?

Worker 11811 · Post by **Worker 11811** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:10 am

Hi! Long time listener. First time caller. ;)

Got a question. Am I allowed to put a notch or a bump on my stock to act as a kisser?
(Like the way archers put buttons on their bowstrings to act as landmarks when they draw the arrow.)

Long story, here. I'll try to give the "Reader's Digest" version.

All summer long, I have been shooting so-so in practice. Last week, I took another gun to the range to shoot just for fun. (Mini-14) After I shot several rounds with that, I went back to my regular gun (Modified 10/22) and I was able to shoot MUCH better. It took me a while to figure out why this happened.

Turns out the reason has to do with parallax. The Mini-14 has military peep sights. The 10/22 has a 3-9 X 40 scope. When shooting military sights I have to set up on the gun very carefully or parallax error will cause my shots to be off. It's just something I've learned to do automatically.

So, when I put down the Mini and picked up the 10/22 I set up on the gun the same way. I was able to shoot 5 in a row pretty easily. (Too bad it was only practice.)

I know my scope's parallax is set for 100 yards. I plan to get a new scope but, in the mean time, I've got to come up with a short-term solution.

I figure I can use a piece of black tape to tape a ball bearing (or something similar) to the stock to act as a landmark when I set up on the gun. But if this wouldn't be allowed in competition, I wouldn't do it.

Any thoughts?

BlauBear · Post by **BlauBear** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:34 am

There was a story about someone gluing a pencil eraser to their stock to mark their position, but no comment on the legality.

silhouette13 · Post by **silhouette13** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 4:25 pm

seems as long as the comb hight is not exceeding the limit and everything is locked down ajustment wise there is no infraction

i am also an archer and your theory makes perfect sense, any thing to make the sequence more repeatable is worth a closer look.
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by the by, which class hunter or std?dont make a lick of differnce just curious

regards dave

Worker 11811 · Post by **Worker 11811** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:15 pm

It'd be this gun:

Took the receiver and trigger out of my 15 year old 10/22 and put on a new Butler Creek .920" barrel and a Hogue OM stock. Bought a new bolt that was machined for better precision and then Parkerized. (Rimfire Technologies did the work.) The scope is a Sightrom 3-9 X 40 w/ Mil Dot.

If you put it on the bench and sand bag it, you can shoot dimes at 50 yards all day long.

Probably wouldn't qualify for Hunter class. Would it?

Anyway, I'm thinking about using a couple wraps of black vinyl electrical tape to attach a 1/4" ball bearing or something similar to the stock so that I can get a good landmark for making a reliable cheek weld on the stock.

So, as long as the kisser is attached in such a way that it can't be easily moved I'd be in the clear. Right?

BlauBear · Post by **BlauBear** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:09 pm

It should work in hunter class just fine. I started with one much like it when the bug first bit.

Ramslammer · Post by **Ramslammer** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:24 am

G'Day All
Though I've never seen one in the flesh a Phar stock looks like it does the same thing. With the sharp slope on the cheekpiece to get a full sight picture your head would need to be positioned the same every time, but someone who has one could verify this. I think there was a post to that effect some time ago. If you put a "kisser" on the stock as long as it was inside the dimensions it should be OK. It would pass here in AUS.
Juddy

Jason · Post by **Jason** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:03 am

If that .920" barrel isn't tapered, then it's not legal for hunter class as it is. With that being the case, I don't know of any reason a kisser that doesn't rise above the centerline of the bore (looks that's a fairly long ways on that stock) should be legal if it's fixed and not adjustable.

BlauBear · Post by **BlauBear** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:19 am

Oops, you're right Jason!

Bull barrels are only legal in standard, not hunter.

Jerry G · Post by **Jerry G** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:57 pm

In standard rifle it would be OK I think as long as it didn't come up as high as the bore centerline. I don'tthink it would pass in hunter class.

jneihouse · Post by **jneihouse** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:42 am

Actually, Innocent is the designated "kisser" of the silhouette community..

Kitty

Innocent · Post by **Innocent** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:18 pm

Actually, Innocent is the designated "kisser" of the silhouette community..

Now Kitty that is only certain match directors and with food as a bribe. I think it is time that Teresa paid up....I was actually going to talk Mongo into doing the dastardly deed but figured Greg might like it too much.

Innocent

jneihouse · Post by **jneihouse** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:52 pm

Whatever happens, I ain't kissin Mongo.....Good guy, a friend no doubt, but I don't kiss anyone that isn't softer than me.......

Kitty

Innocent · Post by **Innocent** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:08 pm

but I don't kiss anyone that isn't softer than me.......

This is too tempting to make remarks as to the hardness of silicon......

Innocent

dwl · Post by **dwl** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:18 pm

I don't know about kissin', but I know some one who's good at huggin'.

BlauBear · Post by **BlauBear** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:39 pm

Okay, y'all are just trying to trying to psych me out for Benton, right?