Cooper

SmallCaliber · Post by **SmallCaliber** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:13 am

Thanks for all of the clarifications. Think I understand.

Bobby, maybe I jumped to the wrong conclusion, sure sounded harsh(and I'm not sensitive)..

Regards

jneihouse · Post by **jneihouse** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:33 am

I guess it would boil down too " Don't ask for advice in an open forum unless you are ready to hear all opinions? If you ask take all opions under advice and be gracious, If not, don't ask, just do what you want. If you really want advice, don't argue the points put forth by more experienced shooters.....But don't take me as gospel, I've not felt myself in a few months.

Kitty

BlauBear · Post by **BlauBear** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:52 pm

And heaven knows we might have an opinion or two 'round here!

SmallCaliber · Post by **SmallCaliber** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:16 pm

jneihouse wrote:I guess it would boil down too " Don't ask for advice in an open forum unless you are ready to hear all opinions? If you ask take all opions under advice and be gracious, If not, don't ask, just do what you want. If you really want advice, don't argue the points put forth by more experienced shooters.....But don't take me as gospel, I've not felt myself in a few months.

Kitty

I fully understand the etiquette required to be part of a forum, thanks.

Problem was, I originally asked a simple question(did not ask for advice) if anyone had seen a certain type of rifle used at competitions. Well, in my mind after 150" views of the posting I would think a few members would have at least answered No or a YES, to an obvious newcomers question. However when the first response addresses Small Bore Rifle Blabbermouth issues and doesnt answer the question in a relative polite manner, it makes me feel like a newbie shouldn't ask questions.

I'm somewhat familiar with the winningest rifles used in SB Silo, I simply wondered if a new type rifle on the market was being seen tried out at competitions...You won't find me argumentative with other members on their opinions as I don't have any experience to be that way.

Think I will watch from now on........

jneihouse · Post by **jneihouse** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:29 pm

Sorry if you took umbrage at my post.....It's Monday, everyone's hung over or at the very least very disappointed that the weekend was too short. My voice is not the most experienced in smallbore silhouette, but you quoted me so I will answer. I have traveled coast to coast and shot in all the majors for a few years. No, I have not seen and evaluated every rifle on the line, but I have been exposed to most. I have not seen a Cooper on the line, but that is not to say there has not been one. One of my good frend, the Dawg posting here, hunts squirrels with a Cooper Anschutz and has a great time. I can personally attest to seeing on the line in the last few years Remington 541's a 504 here and there, Winchester 52's of various extractions, CZ's of one type or another, and may different types of Anschutz rifles. That is what I have seen and can attest to. No offense intended. Hope this was of some use to you.

Kitty

BlauBear · Post by **BlauBear** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:16 pm

It is curious that no Cooper's have turned up in competitions. They have an excellent reputation, and this group isn't shy about spending money for a good rifle. I've seen 'em turn up at the range with rifle cases worth more than their car, so it isn't cost. Interesting.

Again, it's hard to imagine that a Cooper can't compete, it's just perplexing that there aren't any.

atomicbrh · Post by **atomicbrh** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:35 pm

Mr. SmallCaliber: Read my first post carefully. I did not discrimate. I called all Silhouette Shooters "Blabbermouths" including myself because I am a Silhouette Shooter also. I just mentioned that it was a Southern colloquialism because I did not know if folks in the other parts of America and the World were familiar with the term. I have no preconceived notions about people from any particular region of America or the World because I have learned that preconceived notions will kill you. Example: That cute innocent indigenous 3 year old toddling toward you that you want to pick up, hug and give candy to could possibly have a radio controlled explosive device hidden under his clothes and when the "adult" that strapped the device to him triggers it, you, the child and the good men with you die. And I always imagine that the "adult" tells the child "Go to the Americans and they will give you candy." As far as rifles, ammo and scopes go I have no brand loyalty. My son and I shoot what works for us because of the many reasons geniphideaux listed above. Many Master Class, Nationals-winning American shooters really tried for years to make an All American combination of ammo, scopes and rifles work in Smallbore Silhouette but finally had to give up. I know that one of these shooters is a multiple Olympic Gold Medalist in the shooting sports and the other was a well-known AMU Olympic Coach and Ammunition Specialist. These two guys are about the best Marksman in Smallbore that America has ever produced. What I am saying is that these people including geniphideaux are so far ahead in the Research and Development part of this Sport that probably what equipment combination you or I would try, they tried as soon as it came on the Market. I personally could not afford to make a mistake when we purchased equipment because I could only make the purchases one time. My advice is just start shooting whatever you already have in Matches and when people get to know you a little they will let you shoot their rifles either before or after the matches. That is how most of us found the particular combination of equipment that we like. The one thing that my post did for you was to get the "post reply ball" rolling for you and get you some input. And by the way, my wife and I will probably move to the Rural Mid-west when I retire from government service. Hope you got some matches going there.

Bobby R. Huddleston