rules is rules....

[silhouette13]

hi
i have noticed a few times here and there that folks have said , "unless you are at a big match" or "unless it is weighed-dont worry" and stuff like that.

i think we should be telling people to follow ALL the rules. local registered matches count towards grandslams, rules should be enforced, or at very least self enforced. the rules are there so everyone is on equal ground. if you are knowingly outside the rules and use the score for classification or record you are infact a cheater.

silo is a game of dicipline, that dicipline should start with the rulebook. develop good habits and you will avoid being rejected at tech at a big match in the first place.

by all means if your gun is heavy, scope too high, comb too high, etc. shoot the match for fun, it shoudl not be entered into your classification book and more than adding an extra x or 2.

we see it in all sports, football players dont intend to cheat, the forget and it simply never crosses their mind cause there are lots of people doing it.

as far as this sport goes there is not a single lick of difference between a local match with 3 shooters and the CBC.

let me be clear, i do think we should run what you brung to get people involved, but we should not let the scores be counted unless it is within the rules. the rules are the rules ,a match director has certain things left up to them as outlined in the rules. everything else is black and white.

this of course is just my opinion.


dave

[Jerry G]

You are right, rules should be followed. Exception would be to get more shooters hooked on the sport. They should be able to shoot what they brung for a couple of matches and compete in the Unclassified group. Once a score go into their book they should live by the rules.

[jneihouse]

I'm not sure that a laxity in rules observance is what is being suggested, simply a tolerance of "newbies" and their lack of experience and instructions...I can't speak for all match directors who post here, but if you come shoot at OFGC and your equipment is not legal, you will be advised in a friendly fashion why your equipment is not legal and you will be advised that you will be able to shoot the match but not able to compete for places or award pins. And certainly under no circumstance will you have the score entered in your scorebook. In fact, most of the folks in question here will not have a sxorebook nor will they consider it money well spent to buy one until their understanding of the game is better and they do have equipment that is legal.

YMMV

Kitty

[jneihouse]

Of course that said, I didn't realize that I was posting in the Highpower section... Should correct the earlier post to indicate that I am refering to smallbore...If you show up at OFGC to shoot highpower we will have to respectfully refer you to the Benton Gun Club in Benton Arkansas, that has a fine highpower range and expect you to follow the rules as well...

Kitty

[Jim Beckley]

At the very least the safety rules should be enforced. We have a couple of ranges here that operate on a shoe string budget (No scale and no trigger pull weight), it's usually a fun match where you can be as competitive as you want or just have a good time and pull a trigger 40 times.

[RBriscoe]

What Jim said. We strictly adhere to safety rules. Our objective is to send people home safe at the end of the day. If they have a good time, that is nice, but rule number one prevails.

If someone drove an hour or more to come see what the sport was about and the rifle they happened to have weighs a bit too much (the most common 'violation' in my experience) to meet the NRA rules, I fail to see the benefit to the club or sport of telling them that they can not shoot today. I suspect that you may not see them again.

If they decide to pursue silhouette my experience has been that they will try to get a rifle set up to the rules as quickly as possible. If they want to continue shooting something that doesn't really fit the rules, we usually welcome them to shoot, but....

If the rifle is unsafe or simply not allowed (e.g. a 7 Mag for high power) the reason will be explained to them.

I doubt that most clubs would turn a new shooter away from a club match, but then I have not conducted a survey and so could be mistaken.

You set the tone for the match at the club where you participate. Think about what your objectives are and then proceed.

Cheers

Rick

[silhouette13]

i do not disagree that all shooters as long as it is safe and doesnt damage the range equipment should be allowed to shoot. just not for record.

sadly this very second illuminated that, to do so is also outside the rules in an "offical" match. but who decides. my thought is the rules are there to make an even playing field. the "has to have a book and NRA card "is there to make the NRA money, they are dicks. but it is out side the rules. BUT those rules are not unfair to other shooters, if they are not being shot against they are not being cheated against.

so an anchutz target rifle with a hook, everything else is leagl for std smallbore, the hook should keep it out of the books and the scoreboard, but they should be allowed to shoot long enough decide if they wish to invest in a legal rifle.