Moly or Non Moly.....

[shakes]

that is the question. I looked way back to page 8 and couldnt find a topic on this subject, not to say its been brought up before but would like to know. How many of you guys are shooting moly coated bullets vs. straight copper. Is there any advantage to moly vs non besides haveing to clean the barrel less. Have I been suckerd into the fact that they just look a whole hell of a lot cooler than copper. Are then more accurate. Is it worth spending the money?

[Bill the Lurker]

Probably a stupid reason, but I like to shoot moly'd bullets because I get a nice, black impact splash on the white painted animals.
hahaha

I choose to believe that shooting a course of fire without cleaning is less of a problem with moly'd bullets.
(but it wouldn't be the first time I was incorrect.)

[yankee]

Having played with the moly thing since the beginning I will tell you what I have found out. In the beginning there were all kinds of thoughts on what it did for the shooter. Longer barrel life, less cleaning, more accurate.

I have not seen any change in barrel life or wear using regular vs moly bullers. I have not seen that they are more accurate. The cleaning is different but you still better clean the thing.

Here is what I have found out. With most rifles shooting copper jacket bullets the accuracy will start going sour at 60, 80 or 100 rounds. This depends on the barrel, caliber and all kinds of things.
Shooting the moly coated bullets extends the accuracy expectancy or usefull accuracy of the rifle to 200 to 400 rounds maybe more. Again, lots of variables.
One year I shot the entire nationals without cleaning and the rifle was shooting just as good at the end as at the beginning.
Further study and shooting has led me to clean lightly after each match when shooting moly. This is to run 4 or 5 wet patches after the match with maybe one brush stroke and a few more wet patches. The idea being to get the powder fouling out. The thought being that powder fouling will hurt accuracy and barrel life as much as anything. Also one or two shots the next day and the rifle is settled in. If you do a major clean the rifle may take 15 to 20 rounds to settle in just as it does when switching to moly.
Also to note: Lets say you are shooting a 260 with 36 grains of varget. A non coated bullet may be going 2600 but the coated bullet will be going 2550. Moly bullets go slower with the same powder charge.

[lone ringer]

I also coat my bullets with moly and agree with all yankee said regarding moly. I believe my barrels last longer but then again I don't shoot HP as much as I used to in the past when I would burn the throat on a new barrel in less than a year. I also ruined more barrels accuracy by cleaning incorrectly than by not cleaning as much as I do now.

[shakes]

Thanks guys. That's the kind of info is was hoping for.

[RBriscoe]

My experience with DANZAC (tungsten disulfide)'and moly pretty much mirrors that of Chad and Tony. While I was satisfied with the result of the process I was using, it was way too much work and so I gave it up. I will say that I believe that getting the bullet absolutely clean is important.

A bench shooter I know had a completely different approach. He puts the moly in the powder and says he gets the same result as coating the bullet. He had a now expired patent that wa slightly more involved to do this on a commercial scale, but there was no interest in it and so he did not renew it.

It is worth repeating what Tony said about improper cleaning technique, it can dramatically shorten the accuracy life of a barrel.

Rick

[Jerry G]

I'm not convinced that molly is the thing to use. I'll stick with the glidng metal. I hope I seplled that right.

[Jim Beckley]

Short answer is not worth the trouble.