Bling BY EVELIO

[eric614]

New Evelio Bling For a left hand shooter. Can not not wait until she is back home . Spec's are 1907L Anshutz action , Lija BARREL 53R 24", BR 36 D Leupold 3/8 dot, Trigger Anshutz 5018 Modified for Hunter class, and RT/S stock .

[Bob259]

My new Dr. Mojito toy...

[hambone49]

Hey Bob, what the hell kinda gun is that? And I also notice some slight plumming on the front of your scope.

[Boyd L.]

New Evelio Bling For a left hand shooter. Can not not wait until she is back home in Staten Island.

Nice. If you don't mind sharing, what are the barrel specifics (manufacturer, contour, length, etc....)
Did I mention Nice??

[eric614]

Thanks I put specs up on org. post

[metalhead]

Hey B259...just an innocent question, why is that action bedded so far above centerline?

A few guys wanted to know more about your new rifle and so would I. I'm gussing it's a Hall or Stiller action. Would not be suprised if I am wrong, been wrong before, and will be again. It's just the nature of getting old. But, every custom action I have done work on over the years, that has a lever style bolt release on the side, has said lever style bolt release cut dead on ceter of the action diameter.

So as I look at your gun, I asking myself...why?

Hey, Maybe I can learn something here, I'd just like to know what.

[Evelio Mc Donald]

It is a Hall action, actually the bolt release is not straight with the center line of the action, it is higher than normal, and at an angle to the top of the stock. If you notice the bottom of the loading port is flush with the stock, and is actually the center of the action.
Evelio.

[shakes]

Some of you guys have way to money Im just jealouse Bob. That's one nice smallbore rifle you have there

[malinois]

You should see his Hi-power rifle also.....I think bob cought himself some square grouper last time he went fishing.

[metalhead]

Evelio. I have to respectfully disagree with your explanation of this bedding centerline question of mine.

As far as my "limited understanding" of bolt action rifle geometry goes, there has not been one rifle ever manufactured, in the whole history of this type of firearm that has had the lower part of the loading/ejection port cut directly on the centerline of the action.

I have never built a rifle, and there have been hundreds, that did not require the builder to cut a notch in the stock to accomodate the loading port. Don't believe me. PLease, Go look at every rifle "NOT" made by you and say that I am wrong.

Hey everybody up in here, go take a look at all the rifles you own, highpower, smallbore, foreign or domestic, antique or modern, and tell me that none of your rifles, factory or otherwise does not have an area around the loading port that is not recessed in relationship with the top forend part of your stock.

As I have said before...."just think about for one minute" in between shots of whatever is your pleasure this evening.

If the lower part of the ejection port was cut directly on centerline of the action...half of the fired case coming out of the chamber after being fired would surely bind and not be able eject reliably. That's why all actions have the port cut well below centerline. For me, it's a pretty easy mind's eye image to see, But not all of are in the same line of work that I am in.

I have looked at Boob259's rifle over and over, Hey, my heatlh may not be so great buy I still have my eyes and they actually work quite well. I also still possess my keen spacile relationship in relation to diametrical centerlines. If that gun is bedded on centerline then If lost that function of my body as well.

Cheers...."Doctor"

[Jason]

A 1712 doesn't require a notch cut out of the stock there, and they seem to eject brass just fine.

[metalhead]

Once again Jason, you missed the point. The picture you posted also has the action bedded above centerline. Hey, it's not my eyse that are failing.

[Evelio Mc Donald]

Mr Pearson
I will have to agree on every statement that you made. This Hall action was designed for Benchrest shooting, and is totally different from anything I have seen before. If you look closely at the bolt release in relation to the rear tang, the top of the stock, and the scope rails, you will see that it is not horizontally straight in the action, it is rotated maybe 15 to 20 degrees towards the 12 o'clock position, and the ejection port cut out is actually perfectly cut straight horizontally to the action, all others I have seen, have a slight angle toward the inside of the action. Hell even the barrel schank has a 3/4 18 tpi and the action screws are no.10 x 32.
Damm good looking action, and tight as hell. I wish I had any pictures, but all I have is a picture of the whole gun, maybe Bob can take some more detail pictures of that area. By the way I can't swear that the action is set dead nuts on center, it may be .030"-.040" over or under, but I don't think it will make any difference in the way the gun handles or how it shoots.
Well sir it is after 6 so I will fix me one of my favorite beverages.
Cheers
Evelio.

[Jason]

I have never built a rifle, and there have been hundreds, that did not require the builder to cut a notch in the stock to accomodate the loading port. Don't believe me. PLease, Go look at every rifle "NOT" made by you and say that I am wrong.

Hey everybody up in here, go take a look at all the rifles you own, highpower, smallbore, foreign or domestic, antique or modern, and tell me that none of your rifles, factory or otherwise does not have an area around the loading port that is not recessed in relationship with the top forend part of your stock.

1) My rifle wasn't built by Evelio. It was built by Mark Pharr. You're wrong.
2) My rifle does not have an area recessed in relationship with the top foreend of my stock.

You insinuated that Evelio had built the rifle incorrectly because he bedded the action in a position that did not require a cutout in the stock to accomodate the loading port. Maybe you should tell Mark he's doing it wrong, too.

Once again Jason, you missed the point. The picture you posted also has the action bedded above centerline. Hey, it's not my eyse that are failing.

It's not your eyes. It's your logic. The 1712 ejects up and right, not directly right. If you have one handy, look at it directly from the side when chambering or extracting (but not ejecting) a round. There is only the tiniest sliver of brass visible, as the cutout for the port does not come down level with the boreline. The center of bore and action are indeed just slightly high of the top line of the stock, as Mark bedded it to fit with the silhouette rule of the relation of bore line to the comb and not anything else.

[steve b.]

Holy crap...

This thread has really turned out well. I'm lost as to what we are discussing.

s.