Bad Actor

[BlackestBart]

We have a young competitor who has committed actions unbecoming of a competitor in this sport. Since 1978 there has never been a report of someone using high school football challenge and intimidation tactics on other shooters nor obvious challenges to the authority of a Match Director; nor taking credit for the accomplishments of others ; but in the last couple of years, there has been one who is a blatant violator of the code of conduct this sport demands and it is stated in our rules as a subject for admonishment. I will call him John Doe. I would ask all those that believe there is no room in our sport for such actions to comment on this. Such disturbing actions cannot be tolerated.

[acorneau]

You should give us more information than that. What were the specific actions you list and what were the circumstances surrounding those actions?

While I would broadly agree in principal that cheating, intimidation, and false representation are something we absolutely do not need in our sport, the specifics of the actions and the context of the situations in question is important to a nuanced understanding.

If you feel it is inappropriate to provide that kind of information here that's okay, just don't expect folks to pick up a torch and pitchfork.

Either way, I truly hope the issues in question can be resolved.

[cedestech]

I’ll do better. I promise.

[richard]

If it is as bad as you say then the Match director can ban the person from their matches. The match director can decide that a person may not come to a match or if that person can enter the competition, or not. Although rare, I personally know of two situations in which individuals where told that they were not welcome at matches or told not to ever return. One of the offenders was cheating and the other was just extremely annoying and disruptive.

[atomicbrh]

In 2019, we had to lifetime ban a pervert who obviously had mental health issues and possibly addictions.
He was also talking to people who were not there.
I mailed a copy of his ban letter to the nra competition director and other clubs.
My phone started ringing off the hook with other club presidents and match directors telling me they had the same experiences with him and also lifetime banned him. The nra took absolutely no action. I am guessing because the nra director has no moral values or sense of right and wrong.
Silhouette does indeed have some rotten apples.
We have not held a match since that incident in 2019.
(Aside: My wife and I Do Not like to hear the "f" word every 10 seconds. It is simply low class.)
Matches should be family oriented events that parents can bring their kids to.

[375Short]

I’m with Allen, not enough information, even with enough information adjudicating the offense on a public forum doesn’t solve the issue. The official NRA Silhouette rules course of action starts about 9.27 through 9.31 . A faster, simpler and perhaps more effective approach is at the club level where the offense occurred, where the witnesses and victims exist. Most clubs have rules to deal with bad behavior and in the most extreme cases letters of no trespass can be issued through local courts. Based on your description one may assume you where not the only person who’s enjoyment of the match was negatively impacted. Hope your problem gets resolved and good times return to your firing line. We are fortunate that what you described is so rare that the system to deal with such things is almost foreign to the sport.

[c4p6t7r188]

you're right Acorn and I also shouldn't be so harsh. Lets all fix, improve, and move on.

[acorneau]

Well, I literally just got home from Nationals and have a small idea of what happened there, but obviously not all the details or the full story. Also, I'm no longer participating on Facebook (along with many others that don't/haven't) so the discussions there aren't common knowledge to everyone.

Please don't assume that everyone has the same information as you.

[375Short]

I’m not on facebook. Based on the information in the original post one could not know or assume the identity of anyone. I still believe things involving conduct are best handled at the time and place of the offense.

There was a series of events that took place at Nationals that accumulatively did indeed involve a competitor being asked to leave. The officials of the match handled it effectively, efficiently, discretely and professionally. If one was not in the direct orbit of the offenses they likely had no idea anything happened. We should not tolerate such conduct and in this case it was not. Fortunately these remain rare events and if they are handled the same as the officials handled this situation they will remain rare.