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ran out of elevation
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:29 pm
by jaja
Finally had a nice day in PA and decided to go to the range to sight in my new Leopold FX-3 25x40 scope. My scope sits way forward on my rifle and the bottom of the scope tube is 1.960 inches above the top of the receiver. As you can see, my scope sits up pretty high but that's where everything lines up with my eye.To my surprise, I ran out of elevation at 40 meters. My question: What kind of material does one use to shim up the rear ring and how thick does the shim have to be? Also, I'm I correct in assuming that the rear ring gets the shim?
Re: ran out of elevation
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:13 pm
by xpilot
First I would try swapping the rings front to rear. ( they aren't that precise). If no change try 2 thicknesses of an aluminum can on rear ring, adjust from there. If you are that far off, burris signature rings with the inserts will work.
Re: ran out of elevation
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:55 am
by jaja
Thanks for the info. I'll get right on it.
Re: ran out of elevation
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:01 am
by Jerry G
3 thickness of beer can under the back. one shim at 1" long, one at 3/4" and one at 1/2". A small dab of rubber cement holds them in place while you tighten the screws.
Re: ran out of elevation
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:27 am
by jaja
Jerry, I have a few questions for you: First, which ring gets shimmed, the front or back ring? Second,are the three shims to be laid on top of one another in the bottom of the ring? Third, are you really using beer can or soda can aluminum for the shims or is there some other type of material you are using? Fourth, should the shims be as wide as the ring? Fifth, would Burris shims work in BKL rings? THanks
Re: ran out of elevation
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:30 pm
by Bob259
jaja wrote:Jerry, I have a few questions for you: First, which ring gets shimmed, the front or back ring? Second,are the three shims to be laid on top of one another in the bottom of the ring? Third, are you really using beer can or soda can aluminum for the shims or is there some other type of material you are using? Fourth, should the shims be as wide as the ring? Fifth, would Burris shims work in BKL rings? THanks
- First, which ring gets shimmed, the front or back ring? Back Ring
Second,are the three shims to be laid on top of one another in the bottom of the ring? Yes
Third, are you really using beer can or soda can aluminum for the shims or is there some other type of material you are using? Beer or soda can your choice
Fourth, should the shims be as wide as the ring? Yes, or a little less than so they do not stick out
Fifth, would Burris shims work in BKL rings? No, for the Burris adjustable's you need the appropriate Burris rings
There are plenty of people that shoot by you that will surely help you out if you've never done this before.
Re: ran out of elevation
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:34 pm
by rogersptl
Jaja The Burris inserts would need the Signature rings from Burris. I sent them a request long ago to produce the Signature ring set up in AL but never rec'd a reply. That weight of the steel Signature ring set up is my only complaint with them. Best wishes
Re: ran out of elevation
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:53 pm
by jaja
Thanks for replying Bob. That really helped me a lot. I guess I'll pop a Pepsi and get started.
Re: ran out of elevation
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:19 pm
by DavidABQ
If it is an Anschutz you can always buy a 20 moa scope rail and use a set of Weaver base rings like these.
https://www.murphyprecision.com/Products/Item/2004
Re: ran out of elevation
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:09 am
by Jerry G
jaja, I'm not sure a soda can will work. Good beer seems to help a lot of things.

Re: ran out of elevation
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:41 pm
by jaja
I just ordered the Burris Signature rings as well as the .005, .010, and .020 inserts. Since my gun is approximately 9 oz. light (9.53 lbs.) I decided to spend the extra money to make sure I didn't damage the Leupold FX-3 25x40mm I recently purchased. The question now is what to do with the BKL high rings that came off my Anne. I sure hope these rings work. I was really happy to find that the Burris made some Signature rings that would fit onto the BKL 3/8th inch riser blocks.
Re: ran out of elevation
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:47 am
by Gator
Hey Bob
Can I help with generating a supply of shim material? Yuengling?
Gator
Re: ran out of elevation
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:50 am
by Bob259
Gator wrote:Hey Bob
Can I help with generating a supply of shim material? Yuengling?
Gator
Sounds like a plan Gator!!!!

Re: ran out of elevation
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:07 pm
by jaja
While I was able to order the Burris rings I'm having a heck of a time finding the Pos-Align offset inserts. It seems that every store that I tried to order from has the item backordered. Does anyone know a store that has the Burris 1 inch Signature Zee Ring Pos-Align offset Inserts installation kit with the .005, .010, and .020 inserts. The Burris item # is 626019. Any help you guys can give me would be deeply appreciated. Getting frustrated in PA.
Re: ran out of elevation
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 8:57 pm
by kevinbear