Legal for Hunter...? I am not sure I want to address if the stocks SHOULD be legal - Just want to know if they ARE legal...?

I visually (very informally) compared these to pictures of a Pharr and they look to be much the same....

McMillan A3



McMillan Game Scout



McMillan Lazzeroni Sporter



What say Ye.....?

I would say that out of the 3 stocks shown only the Mc millan A3 would not pass for hunter rifle....If only because the forearm has a benchrest style bottom to it...that would be my guess.

From a relatively new shooter, who doesn't claim to have the rules 100% figured out, here are some guidelines. Check the width of the forend on the A3. If it's over 2-1/4" wide, it isn't legal for hunter OR standard rifle.

The game scout might be ok. But I've heard that if the grip is too straight up and down, especially in combination with the "thumb notch" that some judges might disqualify it for hunter.

Merlin,

I have owned a Lazerroni and it is legal for Hunter. Hard to say on the other two, but I do see a slight angle on the grip on the scout but for me the comb is to low com paired to the Parr. I doubt that you can get an A3 that weighs much less than 3lbs and even if the dimensions of the stock are good I think it would be tough to stay within the hunter weight limits.

In my opinion McMillan stocks for hunting rifles are too heavy and not any cheaper than the popular models used right now. I understand that the Mark Pharr ones are not available but I would look into getting one from Steve Wooster or Brown Precision before I would look to the ones made by McMillan which by the way are fine stocks (I do not have anything against the company and I own several McMillan stocks). The Mark Pharr and the Wooster were designed by silhouette shooters to shoot off hand taking into consideration what is allowed by the rule book. Kind of hard to look at pictures from only one angle and determine if the stock is a good one or if its legal. Not trying to create a controversy here just stating some facts that need to be considered.

lone ringer wrote:In my opinion McMillan stocks for hunting rifles are too heavy and not any cheaper than the popular models used right now. I understand that the Mark Pharr ones are not available but I would look into getting one from Steve Wooster or Brown Precision before I would look to the ones made by McMillan which by the way are fine stocks (I do not have anything against the company and I own several McMillan stocks). The Mark Pharr and the Wooster were designed by silhouette shooters to shoot off hand taking into consideration what is allowed by the rule book. Kind of hard to look at pictures from only one angle and determine if the stock is a good one or if its legal. Not trying to create a controversy here just stating some facts that need to be considered.

And your opinion and your observations are taken in proper context and are appreciated..... I have several McMillans, a Brown Precision and am in line for a Pharr myself. Just trying to explore possibilities - and/or options and see where "the lines are" in the stock arena...

As to the comment on heavy stocks... I read "somewhere..." that a Silhouette Shooter wants a one pound stock and a 9 pound barrel.... Sounds about right to me.

Although I have heard that some McStocks have come in lighter when constructed with "Edge Technology", my experience mirrors Paul's...36+ ounces and later than promised and colors that occasionally are something close to what you ordered. If you go that direction, be prepared for a short barrel.

I ended up getting lucky and finding a Pharr already inletted.... I bought it and think we will have a lasting relationship.....

Can anyone share their opinions on the Brown Precision stock for hunter class?

eskuri wrote:Can anyone share their opinions on the Brown Precision stock for hunter class?

"Some say" that the words Brown and Precision should not be used in the same sentence.

The shape isn't bad, but they take a lot of finish work. The Brown stock was the basis for the first Nesika stock which in turn was changed some for Mark's stocks and Steve's stocks as well. Each of them has some variation in shape to suit themselves and their customers. The construction of both of their stocks is very similar and they are basically ready to bed the action, set the length of pull and install a recoil pad. In my opinion, either of them is head and shoulders above the Brown stock in terms of quality and are a more evolved shape for silhouette shooting. Which one of the variations in cheek piece you may desire depends in large part on the shape of your face.

I strongly recommend trying them out before ordering one. I am sure that someone at a match would let you give theirs a try.

Unfortunately, it takes a while to get one made, but I think they are worth the wait.

Rick

Rick, appreciate your comments. Thanks