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New Guy Diving in!!!!!
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:24 am
by BadKarma
In case you didn't read my Intro post in the Clubhouse, I'm a big 10/22 fan and have decided to give this a run.
Well, I jumped off the cliff!! (or was I pushed?)
Placed the order with Midway and am sending the trigger group and bolt off to get whipped into shape. All my stuff from Midway is in stock, so I should see those midweek sometime. The Bolt and trigger maybe a bit over a week.
For those of you interested, I selected to begin with these parts.:
Standard Ruger 10/22 LR carbine
E R Shaw 18" ss Bull Barrel
Boyds Tacticool stock (unfinished) still trying to decide either paint or just finish.
Bolt by Que
Tier 2 trigger job by Brimstone Gunsmithing (set to 2.5lbs)
Wilson Combat Buffer
Gunsmither Barrel Block
and a Power Custom Extended Bolt Handle (for a touch of BLING!!)
I haven't decided on glass yet, but I have a 3-9x50 that is homeless and will step in for the time being.
I'm figuring this setup will be far more capable than me for awhile and that will give me a chance to figure out where it needs to go if I get up to speed.
i'm so weak

Re: New Guy Diving in!!!!!
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:34 am
by tenx9
I'm not too familiar with the 10/22, except the fact that Lawton won a national championship years ago with a custom action based on yours.
Your scope is inadequate however. A 3x9 is a good all around scope but for silohuette shooting its a little light. Minimum power should be at least a 6.5x20, with target adjustment knobs and is parralax adjustable for distance. You can't hit what you can't see, so a quality glass is more important than the rifle. Remember, you'll be shooting at 4 different distances and will need a sight setting for each distance. good luck in your build.
Re: New Guy Diving in!!!!!
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:06 am
by BadKarma
tenx9 wrote:I'm not too familiar with the 10/22, except the fact that Lawton won a national championship years ago with a custom action based on yours.
Your scope is inadequate however. A 3x9 is a good all around scope but for silohuette shooting its a little light. Minimum power should be at least a 6.5x20, with target adjustment knobs and is parralax adjustable for distance. You can't hit what you can't see, so a quality glass is more important than the rifle. Remember, you'll be shooting at 4 different distances and will need a sight setting for each distance. good luck in your build.
Thank you sir.
I knew the glass was sub par, but I'm still undecided on what glass to get, research is ongoing. The 3-9x50 is just a stop gap to allow me to work out any issues and get the whole unit broke in. The break in time will be 50 yard groups until I can make up my mind on scope and the practice season starts up in Jan.
I wasn't aware that a Ruger Semi had won a Nat Championship. Maybe there is hope after all? (the only weak link is me)

Re: New Guy Diving in!!!!!
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:04 am
by Jerry G
With all you have done to the gun you need to bedd the action. Don't even think of serrious shooting without a scope with target knobs on it. Using 'hold over' realy doesn't get it.
Re: New Guy Diving in!!!!!
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:25 am
by BadKarma
Jerry G wrote:With all you have done to the gun you need to bedd the action. Don't even think of serrious shooting without a scope with target knobs on it. Using 'hold over' realy doesn't get it.
Roger that, it's on the list.
I thought I had a line on a Burris 8-32x but I was a tad late.

Re: New Guy Diving in!!!!!
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:49 pm
by tenx9
I don't believe it was a Ruger action per se. It was stainless steel, based on a Ruger action and had a custom trigger that had to put on by a gunsmith. The s/s bbl was about 20" long but it had a bloop tube screwed into the end and a huge bbl. weight on the end. A super custom rifle for sure. Bausch & Lombs and Luepolds seem to be the favorites because of their lighter weight. Be aware that some scopes had 1/8 min click adjustable. Not necessary, 1/4min are easier use and better for silohuette. Once again...good luck
Re: New Guy Diving in!!!!!
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:13 am
by silhouette13
it was a Kidd set up. that 10/22 was as much $$ as a 1710.
good onya for going your own route. i love to see "different" in th racks...make it interesting.
welcome
dave
Re: New Guy Diving in!!!!!
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:41 am
by Innocent
Leupold, Weaver and Sightron have the best reputation of repeatability of turret adjustments, and some of the better warranties out there. Burris is great glass, but heavy and not too many with target turrets, and they are not adaptable to reticle changes.
Mary
Re: New Guy Diving in!!!!!
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:28 pm
by BadKarma
Thanks Dave and Mary. The jury is still out about the glass just yet.
I got kinda busy yesterday, the package from MidwayUSA arrived yesterday!!! w00t!!
I took a personal day from work to do a brake job on the pickup and got done earlier than anticipated, so jumped right in. Started the finishing job on the stock and started the planning on the bedding job. While I was waiting on the first 3 layers of finish to set, I drug the Buckmark out and did a quick trigger job on it. It's getting thrown into the Steel Challenge matches at the range. All in all had a great day, I just wish my bolt and trigger group were on the way back!! (thats not gonna be for at least another week)
Re: New Guy Diving in!!!!!
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:05 pm
by Innocent
BK...glass is a matter of personal preference for light, the three I mentioned are best known for repeatability on tracking. Yes Nikon, Burris, Bausch and Lomb etc make great glass but they are not known for there tracking and weight does become an issue with some of the them.
I do agree, 1/4 minute clicks are better to keep track of in a match than 1/8 minute.
Mary
Re: New Guy Diving in!!!!!
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:15 pm
by tenx9
Speaking of different, I shoot a Walther silo riflle with a 36x Luepold. A few years ago I rebbarreled it with a 19inch bbl with a screwed on bloop tube so I could adjust the balance of the rifle with bbl weights. Don't see many walthers at my matches. In fact, none, LOL. Anybody know if or where I can get firing pin springs for the bolt? I've been getting toooo many light hits lately? Thanks........
Re: New Guy Diving in!!!!!
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:27 pm
by boats
I always recommend high power scopes, Leopold's 6.5x20's on my modern Silhouette guns. Single shots use a 20 X Lyman STS on the 32/40 and 12x Unertl on a Black powder 38/55 Schuetzen, both 13-14 # rifles, hook plates and palm rest.
However lately not shooting much small bore silhouette. 20x on my Kimber 82 set up to the old Hunter rule, 7 1/2 lbs was bothering me. Not steady as I would like with the light gun and 3 lb trigger. You can see every bobble with 20x which was making me hesitant on the trigger. Put a Leopold Compact A/O 3x9 with target knobs on the rifle and shooting it better than with the 20x. It's not going to win Hunter class but does make a respectable showing.
So my latest advice 9x is not a significant disadvantage particularly in a light rifle. Target knobs and adjustable objective are essential. If the settings won't repeat perfect every time might as well stay home.
Boats
Re: New Guy Diving in!!!!!
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:54 pm
by CZforlife
Well not to confuse ya any more than ya probably are, because I do remember how I started out, and that was confused! But just to stick up for the opposite end of the argument, I prefer the most power I can get. I like to see the wobble and by seeing my wobble I can predict where my wobble is going and also determine where my shots are breaking with better ease. Currently shooting on 40x and might try going up to 50x. Power is all in the "eye" of the beholder! Basically try out different stuff and see what ya like, might like 10x 15x 20x 25x 30x or 40x or 50x all depends on the person! Just make sure whatever ya buy changes settings reliable!
Best of luck starting out,
Pat

Re: New Guy Diving in!!!!!
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:22 am
by silhouette13
CZforlife wrote:Well not to confuse ya any more than ya probably are, because I do remember how I started out, and that was confused! But just to stick up for the opposite end of the argument, I prefer the most power I can get. I like to see the wobble and by seeing my wobble I can predict where my wobble is going and also determine where my shots are breaking with better ease. Currently shooting on 40x and might try going up to 50x. Power is all in the "eye" of the beholder! Basically try out different stuff and see what ya like, might like 10x 15x 20x 25x 30x or 40x or 50x all depends on the person! Just make sure whatever ya buy changes settings reliable!
Best of luck starting out,
Pat

Pats advise should not be taken lightly, a newbie himself, is already a National champ in his class as well as Fla State champ! the newbies newbie for sure.
the only thing i would add is get a variable until you find what works best. a fixed is nice for making weight but if you have the room, go vari.
Dave
Re: New Guy Diving in!!!!!
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:18 am
by CZforlife
Thanks Dave!
