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Bullet Weight
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:50 am
by SSShooter
Will a 117gr bullet with an MV of ~2200fps "reliably" knock over the rams? Have an opportunity to pick up a nice, old 1894 in 25-35WCF and don't really want to use up my $$ if it isn't going to work.
How about the 45LC. Will it 'do the job' on full-size rams at 200m? If you can't tell, I'm new to the CLA 200m game.
Thanks.
Re: Bullet Weight
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:18 am
by snaketail2
I can't speak to the 25-35, but I can say that I've lost a Ram with a 170r load in my 30-30. I've hear of people having success with that cartridge, but haven't personally seen it in action.
The .45 Colt - if you can live with rainbow trajectory at 200 meters - then you can take them down. I has fair success with 255gr LRNFP over 20r of 4227. A hit anywhere on the ram would take it. I used the same load for Pistol Cartridge matches and moved into AA with that load...only to replace it with a 25-20. In all fairness there are better choices for either.
Michael
Re: Bullet Weight
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:32 am
by cslcAl
SSshooter, the short answer to your 25-35 question is no. I shot one for a year including the Nationals and I lost a lot of Rams.
The other problem right now is Hornady quit making the jacketed 117 bullet and doesn't plan on making them ever again. This info comes from a well known shooter who talked to Steve Hornady personally.
Al Foust
Re: Bullet Weight
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:48 am
by SSShooter
Thanks. Was a little leary on the 25cal. Looks like the 30-30, 32WS or 38-55 is the 'easy way out' (smart choice) on the cartridge.
Re: Bullet Weight
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:53 pm
by snaketail2
I'm the USA Shooting Sports "reporter" that covered the Lever Action Silhouette Nationals in Raton this summer. The majority of shooters were using 30-30, #2 was 38-55. There was a few .357s and at least one .45 Colt shooting the long line. The top winner was shooting a 30-30.
If I were starting over - and believe me, this is well thought out (read that as well pair-for) - I'd get a good Marlin 39a first. I'd use it for Small Bore and Pistol Cartridge until I got good enough to need a "bigger" cartridge for Pistol Cartridge. If you drop all the chickens, pigs and turkeys and ring all the rams you'll still shoot a AAA score!
Then I'd look for a .22 magnum, .25-20, .32-20 or .357 for pistol cartridge
When I got ready for a CLA rifle I'd stay with Marlin - most silhouette shooters like those with 24" barrels and without a barrel bands.
But, for a new shooter I do suggest getting a nice 39a and use it until you start out-shooting it - mine is one of my favorite rifles.
Michael
Re: Bullet Weight
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:54 pm
by SSShooter
While the Marlin 39A is a nice rifle, I'll just have to suffer along with my pair of old Marlin Model 1897s. ;)
Think I'm interested in shooting BP rather than smokeless (I'm a BPCR & BPTR shooter), so will likely go for the 38cal as the larger bore is easier to clean. Was thnking that 32WinSpl might be a good round, but starting over with another bottle-neck cartridge in BP is not what I want.