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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:57 am
by _Shorty
Yeah, that too. He was screwing around so many people that Paypal revoked his account.

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:11 pm
by BlauBear
Brownel's and Whittaker Guns used to carry the Eric Brooks kits in stock.

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:16 pm
by _Shorty
True, but then you're still supporting that joker. I'd rather not support a guy that rips people off, as he's taken money from many people and never shipped anything no matter how long they waited. And buying his products from other suppliers still means giving him money down the chain. Screw 'im.

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:15 pm
by BlauBear
Timney and Rifle Basix are better stuff but more expensive so the Brooks kit from a reliable source is better than the stock trigger. You have a point Shorty, but Momma used to call that "cutting off your nose to spite your face".

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:23 pm
by _Shorty
I didn't realize Momma was happy to give money to con artists that she knows are con artists ahead of time. Just go to the hobby store and buy your own brass tubing. Eric Brooks is a thief. And, no, I'm not referring to the pricing of his kit. I'm referring to him literally stealing money from people. I don't care how much you want to fix your trigger, supporting a thief is still supporting a thief.

By the way, I still haven't seen my buddy Dave long enough to find out what's taking him so long with his trigger kits. He's duplicating Eric's kits, but plans on actually giving you what you pay for, heh. Hopefully he's at this Saturday's shoot.

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:31 pm
by BlauBear
Since the parts in that kit can't cost more than a couple of bucks anyway, it's really hard to understand why Brooks killed that cash cow...

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:41 pm
by _Shorty
Yeah, who knows, life is life I guess.

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:09 pm
by Jason
Speaking as someone who's been trying for years to try to make a 452 trigger betterfor both benchrest and silhouette, skip the 452 and go with the 453 if you're going to try to upgrade the trigger anyway. I've tried the Brooks trigger kit (just a couple brass sleeves and a few springs, really), the Automated Solutions replacement sear, and the complete Timney trigger. Each is a signficant upgrade from the step below them, but even the last one isn't as good as the trigger on the 453s. I have owned half a dozen CZ rifles and helped at least a dozen others tweak their CZ smallbore rifles to get them ready for either informal benchrest competition or silhouette matches. When it comes to NRA smallbore silhouette, the CZ 453 Varmint is now where the 452 was a couple years ago. It's the sweet spot at the price point in the market that will give the best accuracy, trigger, and weight/balance for the game. Below it is a CZ 452 with a Brooke's trigger kit (or just a spring and sleeve from any hardware store). Below that is whatever you have that you can get out to a match with, as it's better to be shooting what you have than sitting at home saving for something else.

Getting the 453 from the start also saves you the time of tweaking that you could be reading a book like "With Winning in Mind" or practicing form for shooting. If you just have to tweak it later, you can get it pillar bedded (has two action screws so you're set). It won't need it, though. Just get it, some BKL 257A and a decent scope and get shooting.

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:41 pm
by Jason
Btw.. don't feel too limited with the CZ. I wouldn't advise dropping $600+ on restocking it into a Pharr stock with custom bottom metal, but you can rework the factory stock to fit you and hold better. Here's a picture of the only CZ 452 that I currently own as an example. That stock started as a factory Varmint stock. It still looks like this picture except for the BKL rings and Weaver T24 that are currently on it. As I said above, though, a better use of your time would be improving your shooting. The gun can do its part just fine. This game is 90% shooter, so that's where 90% of the time should be spent. :)

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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:47 pm
by Innocent
As for the CZ rifles, they will out shoot the shooter most of the time. What is important is to put good reliable glass on it. Weaver T series, Leupolds Vari-X III, some of the Sightrons, all are good, it gets down to a personal preference. Power, I would go for a range of 6.5 to 20 or 8 to 32. Much over that is too much for beginners to learn to use well.
Welcome to the addiction, and remember the whole family can enjoy it.

Mary

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:03 pm
by _Shorty
For sure. I've got a cheap Tasco Target/Varmint on mine that I've started having doubts about over the last couple months or so. Worked fine for way over a year, but I think perhaps there are parts in it that are moving around from time to time and moving POI slightly now. Now that I've got another rifle and scope I'm going to try the other scope on it and see if it's still shooting like it used to.