Target Grouping

_Shorty · Post by **_Shorty** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:14 pm

I don't think it's related to breathing for me, at least it's not exhaling while shooting. I exhale and hold at that exhaled state, and then shoot within the next few seconds. If it doesn't happen by then, I'll take a long deep breath, exhale, and have another go. Perhaps I'll take a video of myself and see what I see in that.

BlauBear · Post by **BlauBear** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:50 pm

Experimenting with different grips during dry fire drills this evening reproduced the left shift anytime the sides of the rifle were gripped. Resting the rifle across the left palm and hooking the right thumb around the comb gave best results. Live fire changes the dynamics but this looks like the beginning of an explanation.

It's as simple as keeping all the pressure going straight back.

_Shorty · Post by **_Shorty** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:48 pm

I think I'll do a bit of experimenting later with some dryfiring. I'm taking a break right now from trying to get my brakes done on my car before I lose light. Stupid cars, hehe.

dave imas · Post by **dave imas** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:35 pm

Ernie,

Come on up. I'd be delighted to work under your tutelage any time.

jneihouse · Post by **jneihouse** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:31 pm

Stubborn??? Blaubear??? Wow, never would have guessed that:)....Seriously though......takes a brave man to discuss Projectile Dysfunction on an open forum.....Well known fact that Premature Trigulation is a leading cause of Projectile Dysfunction....

Kitty

BlauBear · Post by **BlauBear** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:35 am

Here kitty, kitty... I got your little blue pill right here...

Bob259 · Post by **Bob259** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:24 pm

BlauBear wrote:Here kitty, kitty... I got your little blue pill right here...

Hmmmm... Are you saying the Commander in Chief is in need of ahh... ummmm, assistance????

Innocent · Post by **Innocent** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:58 pm

I got your little blue pill right here...

BB, since when did they start dying the heartworm medication blue?

If you're talking about the other blue pills...man that does bad things to the eyes, not good...

Innocent

Bob259 · Post by **Bob259** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:08 pm

Innocent wrote:
I got your little blue pill right here...
BB, since when did they start dying the heartworm medication blue?

If you're talking about the other blue pills...man that does bad things to the eyes, not good...

Innocent

I can't see, I can't see

BlauBear · Post by **BlauBear** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:22 pm

Innocent wrote:
I got your little blue pill right here...
BB, since when did they start dying the heartworm medication blue?

If you're talking about the other blue pills...man that does bad things to the eyes, not good...

Innocent

Pure urban legend used to sell blue tinted sunglasses. With very little they can be made to chamber in an air rifle, with the positive side effect of tempering the steel.

Innocent · Post by **Innocent** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:27 am

BB,
What are you drinking or smoking man? Shooting little blue pills through an air gun? Come on lead is not that expensive yet.

Bob,
Having spent seven months with my better half totally blind (due to a BB gun injury from 1981 and a macular hole in the other eye) I err on the side of caution when it comes to playing with that kind of side effects.

Innocent

Bob259 · Post by **Bob259** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:36 pm

Innocent wrote:BB,
What are you drinking or smoking man? Shooting little blue pills through an air gun? Come on lead is not that expensive yet.

Bob,
Having spent seven months with my better half totally blind (due to a BB gun injury from 1981 and a macular hole in the other eye) I err on the side of caution when it comes to playing with that kind of side effects.

Innocent

Reminds me of a store of an old guy tell the pharmist to cut his blue pills in four... but would have to tell that behind the berm

Understand very well Mary. I was going to shoot at another indoor range this coming year if we didn't fix our back stop, because of all the splatter we were getting. You only have one set of eyes and they are not to be messed with. The good news is after a lot of haggling we had our indoor range backstop redone so I won't have to look else where.

BlauBear · Post by **BlauBear** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:38 pm

Innocent wrote:BB,
What are you drinking or smoking man? Shooting little blue pills through an air gun? Come on lead is not that expensive yet.

Not regularly Mary, but it's a small price for minor mayhem. You don't think I'd shoot Kitty with a pellet, do you?! After all he's done for me?

Innocent wrote:Bob,
Having spent seven months with my better half totally blind (due to a BB gun injury from 1981 and a macular hole in the other eye) I err on the side of caution when it comes to playing with that kind of side effects.

Innocent

Amen to that! Safety glasses are only annoying until you destroy the first pair...

BlauBear · Post by **BlauBear** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:36 pm

As measured by George Toney, the heat index on the firing line today was 114 and I shot a personal best 28 in Hunter, thanks to y'all, Kitty, Lanny Basham, and the Marines.

Y'all reminded me to go back and check the basics.

Kitty pointed out that there should be no tension in the forward arm, that it was just there to support the rifle and not to push in any way.

Lanny Basham ("With Winning in Mind") described the importance of having a program (a concept I understand) and running it every time.

The Marines taught me to breath in, get the sight picture above the target and then exhale until the target was centered in the sight picture.

Rainy Day Annie is an Anschutz 1712 FWT pieced together from Ed Kessey (the action), Kitty (a battered old McMillan FWT stock), Evelio (bedding, LOP), Northwest Hydroprint (paint and raindrop pattern) and a Leupold BR 24x40 from Byron, and I'm very sentimental about each piece. Because everything on her has a story and is (ahem) well seasoned, she usually stays safe at home, but everything else is broken or in process, so she came out to play and did a great job.

This is my first leg into AAA and I very much appreciate everyone's help.

jneihouse · Post by **jneihouse** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:47 pm

Once again I prove that you don't have to shoot for crap to be a good coach.....Congratulations 'Bear...Good shooting on a very hot and humid day..Basham's book ought to be required reading and required re-reading

Coach Kitty