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Getting ready to shoot a match
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:21 pm
by chuck d
I have finaly got my rifle zeroed at 50 and 100 yards. I have some questions
1. How do to you you mark scopes for come ups? ie: setting for 50 60 77 100
2. Looking for Remington Target ammo made by Eley. I found it to shoot great, and got a couple boxes locally, not enough. It's in a green & yellow box, looks like Rem stuff, but says made by Eley.
3. Anyone know of a source that can supply Weatherby XXII mags?
4. how often do you clean your rifle? I shot .22 pistol for a season, and those guys cleaned 1x year. I shoot HP, and clean every 100 rounds, or so.
thanks
chuck
Re: Getting ready to shoot a match
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:44 pm
by BlauBear
chuck d wrote:1. How do to you you mark scopes for come ups? ie: setting for 50 60 77 100
I don't.
2. Looking for Remington Target ammo made by Eley. I found it to shoot great, and got a couple boxes locally, not enough. It's in a green & yellow box, looks like Rem stuff, but says made by Eley.
Try Eley Target-Rifle from Cathy Winstead-Severin
http://www.goodshootinginc.com/
3. Anyone know of a source that can supply Weatherby XXII mags?
Those are Anschutz 64 action magazines, part #7004005 from Champions Choice I think will work, or get the Savage magazines from Brownel's, file a notch in 'em and save about $30 ($10 vs. $40) each.
4. how often do you clean your rifle? I shot .22 pistol for a season, and those guys cleaned 1x year. I shoot HP, and clean every 100 rounds, or so.
thanks
I clean and wipe down my rifles every time they're used, but you will get many opinions.

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:59 pm
by shakes
What type of scope are you using? And you May want to zero your scope for 40 meters instead of 50 yards. Typically smallbore silhouette is 40, 60, 77, 100 meters, but your club(range) may be set differrent. If you have a quallity scope you should have numbers on the adjustment knobs, both elevation and windage. I use Leupolds and once I get it zeroed at 40, 60 meters is generally 2 1/2 to 3 and 77 is 41/2 to 5 and 100 is 91/2 to 10 on the dials. Take a look at what your fellow shooters are using for scopes and look at there dials to get an idea of what i mean.
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:01 pm
by dave imas
set your scope to zero at 40 meters (chicken distance). typical adjustments for standard velocity ammunition from there are:
2 minutes to pigs (60 meters)
4 minutes to turkeys (77 meters)
7 - 8 minutes for rams (100 meters)
these could be a bit different depending on the length of your barrel, height of your scope above the barrel, and the velocity of your ammunition but the above settings should get you in the ball park.
I have a barrel that collects lead in the throat so i clean it pretty well after each match.
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:07 pm
by jneihouse
From your earlier posts I see that you bought a 4200 6X24? The "standard" way, if there is such, of noting your elevation changes as your shoot through the field is to find your chicken (40 meter) zero. Loosen whatever holds your elevation know on the scope and turn it to 0....Tighten whatever you loosened to allow you to move the know. Then move your paper target to the pigs (60 meters) and establish that setting: Do the same for Turkeys and Rams and write these numbers down on a piece of paper and be sure not to lose it...some folks tape it to their stock or scope. Some folks that are more familiar with the 4200 (does it have 1/8 or 1/4 minute clicks? and are the knobs target knobs with numbers or just dials with lines on them) could chime in here and be much more helpful.
As far as the Remington Eley, if Cathy and James do not have it (they should still be in Raton at the Lever gun nationals) the Bass Pro shops lists it in stock.
Blaubear is spot on on the magazines...Most folks here use them, though I confess a fondness for the Anschutz mags, just a personal preference with me that has more to do with indexing the rifle in my hand as anything else.
And as for cleaning, well you'll get about as many opinions as there are shooters....for sure keep the outside wiped down so it won't rust and keep the bolt lubed...as for what you through the barrel, how you put it through and how often you do it.....A good friend of mine who is very experienced once told me "Your gun will tell you when it needs cleaning" meaning the groups will start to open up. And he was and is right.
Glad to have you in the sport and good luck at your first match. Be sure to report back here and tell us how it went.
Kitty
Zero at 40 M.
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:14 pm
by Jetmugg
There is almost always time allowed to "sight in" before the start of a Silo match. Here's how I do it....
1. Always start at the shortest distance (official NRA would be 40M for chickens). When your shots hit where you are aiming, "zero" your scope turrets. This only applies if you are using target turrets. I like the Weavers, where the turrets are repositionable without tools.
2. Move to your next farthest distance (NRA would be 60M for pigs). Somewhere in the range of 2-1/2 minutes should get you on the paper, depending on your ammo, barrell, etc. When your shots hit where you are aiming, write down that setting on a piece of paper.
3. Do the same thing at the next farthest distance (NRA would be 77M for turkeys). Write down this setting when you are happy with the impact point (generally about 5 minutes or so).
4. Go to the farthest distance (NRA rams at 100M). This will be in the range of 9 minutes total elevation from your "zero" point. Write down the actual setting.
Then I transfer all of my settings onto a piece of masking tape, and stick the tape on the side of the scope. Note that your settings might change from match to match based on temperature, wind, etc.). At the end of the match, I pull off the tape and stick it in a small notebook that I keep, so that I can record the conditions, the scope settings, my scores, and any other notes I want to keep.
SteveM.
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:18 pm
by jneihouse
Looks like we were all posting at the same time:) Slow day across the country...
Where will you be shooting your first match?? Bet you there will be several very helpful folks there than would be glad to help you out if you show up a little early.
Kitty
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:40 pm
by Quonset Hut
If you have 1/4 min clicks, go to the hobby store and get four tiny bottles of Model car or airplane paint, each a different color. Once you have the right elevation at your home range for each animal on a calm day, use a toothpick to place a tiny dot for each animal. This won't work for 1/8 as the ones I've seen require more than a full turn between C and R. Adjust as appropriate for other ranges and wind from the marks.
Changing zeros
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:13 pm
by Jetmugg
I have been suprised at how much difference there can be using the same rifle, same ammo, same range, but different times of the year (temperatures).
When we shoot in January in MO, the temps can be near 0F. Last weekend, it was close to 100F. My ram settings were about 2 minutes different between the two conditions.
That's why I like to use some easily removable tape (the blue kind). For me, painting dots would not work.
Your mileage may vary.
SteveM.
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:38 pm
by BlauBear
We learned last year to keep ammunition in a cooler because it gets erratic outside of a temperature range, and 100 degrees is definitely outside the happy zone. A cooler keeps it steady until needed.
So far as cleaning, Evelio just fussed at me about all the oil accumulated between the action and stock, so we'll just say different people have different ways.
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:18 pm
by jneihouse
Told you soaking your gun in a 55 gallon drum of Ballistol wasn't a good idea....
Kitty
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:47 pm
by Bob259
jneihouse wrote:Told you soaking your gun in a 55 gallon drum of Ballistol wasn't a good idea....
Kitty
Face it John, he just won't listen to us. All our hints, tips, assistance, good advice and he just won't listen.
However there is a crack in the armor.... finally, I think we have him listening about the Dark Side and he maybe joining us

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:40 pm
by BlauBear
jneihouse wrote:Told you soaking your gun in a 55 gallon drum of Ballistol wasn't a good idea....
Kitty
Keep that quiet, Kitty or everyone will want a turn.
Bob259 wrote:However there is a crack in the armor.... finally, I think we have him listening about the Dark Side and he maybe joining us
No way - too much hassle. Besides, there isn't a 504 centerfire.

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:09 am
by jneihouse
Besides, there isn't a 504 centerfire. Cool
I have faith that if there is one out there you will find it and champion it's cause
BTW, did you hear that Bob259 is thinking about moving to Arkansas and living in the Man Cave??
Kitty
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:14 am
by Innocent
BTW, did you hear that Bob259 is thinking about moving to Arkansas and living in the Man Cave??
Hey I figure he is just politicking trying to set himself up as Commander of the F-Troop.
Innocent