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Re: SPORTING .22 RF OPEN SIGHTS RIFLE SILHOUETTE

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:04 am
by cedestech
shooterer wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:58 am Ok, I bought my rifle for this, where do I sign up?
:x

Re: SPORTING .22 RF OPEN SIGHTS RIFLE SILHOUETTE

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:05 am
by Grantmac
cedestech wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:38 am
Grantmac wrote: Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:34 pm I'm a letter of the law guy when it comes to rules that actually affect performance.
I was being sarcastic... Completely agree that open sights are... open sights. That is the way they shoot it in Mexico.

The stick on aperture on glasses does help for open sights and should be allowed.

If we make it to Raton this year I'm looking forward to this match.

Is there going to be any prizes besides bragging rights?
Oh I realize that!

I'd definitely shoot this locally if it came available but we struggle to get 8 people at a regular SB match and I've been unable to get air rifle going.
Although maybe adding a set of 3/8 targets to our center rail for anyone showing up with open sights or maybe just for first timers would be a worthwhile investment?
Could possibly even make it a single swinger which gets repainted each round?

Re: SPORTING .22 RF OPEN SIGHTS RIFLE SILHOUETTE

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:22 pm
by TheBugFather
This uses 1/2 scale 22 Long Rifle targets as used in Lever Action rifle

Re: SPORTING .22 RF OPEN SIGHTS RIFLE SILHOUETTE

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 12:08 pm
by Grantmac
For some reason I had lever using 3/8 in my mind. The rams must tip over very slowly.

Our rails might not be big enough.

Re: SPORTING .22 RF OPEN SIGHTS RIFLE SILHOUETTE

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2022 6:24 pm
by lone ringer
Grantmac wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 12:08 pm For some reason I had lever using 3/8 in my mind. The rams must tip over very slowly.

Our rails might not be big enough.
In SB Lever Action, we occasionally ring the 1/2 size rams if using SV ammo, if rams set forward of the stands/rails or if the wind is blowing towards us. I use HV ammo even though is not quite as accurate as the more expensive SV match ammo to minimize ringing targets.

Re: SPORTING .22 RF OPEN SIGHTS RIFLE SILHOUETTE

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:15 pm
by c4p6t7r188
Is there a rule against forearm length /min? Would a mannlicher stock be allowed? Set triggers allowed?

Re: SPORTING .22 RF OPEN SIGHTS RIFLE SILHOUETTE

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 8:15 pm
by lone ringer
c4p6t7r188 wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:15 pm Is there a rule against forearm length /min? Would a mannlicher stock be allowed? Set triggers allowed?
I believe you texted me via messenger and I answered your questions. If the rifle in question is an unaltered factory sporting/hunting model and comes with open sights it will be legal for this new rifle silhouette discipline. No rule against forearm length either, a mannlicher stock will be allowed.

Re: SPORTING .22 RF OPEN SIGHTS RIFLE SILHOUETTE

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 9:38 pm
by lone ringer
A lot of interest regarding the Sporting .22 RF Open Sights rifle silhouette match that is going to be held at Raton, NM on July 3 the day before the Western Lever Action Championships start.
I asked the Capstone group for things to give away as door prices and they responded by sending me a package that included a certificate for one brick of SK ammo, one brick of Lapua ammo and one certificate for a one free test appointment (value $50) at the Lapua test performance centers, three hats and some pens.
If you or someone you know would like to donate anything to be given as door prices at this event it would be greatly appreciated and your name would be published as the donor if you don't mind me doing so.
Jim Luke told me he was going to ask a firearms maker to donate a rifle to be given away at our match.
After paying the Wittington Center fees, insurance and miscellaneous expenses if I have any money left over from the entries I am planning on giving it back to you guys as part of the door price raffle.

Re: SPORTING .22 RF OPEN SIGHTS RIFLE SILHOUETTE

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2023 10:36 pm
by 375Short
Simple is fun.
Thank you for your efforts in organizing and presenting this opportunity to try a “new to us” silhouette discipline.
Your hard work and dedication are much appreciated.

Re: SPORTING .22 RF OPEN SIGHTS RIFLE SILHOUETTE

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:53 am
by hermit5
Loneringer,thank you for your effort to promote this new game.It’s a worthy discipline to be considered by entry level shooters and something new for longtime silhouette enthusiasts.
Ridgway has included the Open Sight Sporter Rifle in the monthly Leveraction matches.
In addition,following your lead,it was also included in as an event the ( Day After)conclusion of Leveraction Nationals
Thursday June 22.This precedes the weekend Sierra Classic HP Silhouette Regional.So those staying after Leveraction Nationals and shooting HP can have one more event on the days off.This could be considered a warmup for your match at Raton in July.
I don’t know if I can gather the sponsors you have acquired but will try.Also following your lead,anyone wishing to donate a door prize for this event can submit to the Open Sight Sporter match directors via the Ridgway website.

Re: SPORTING .22 RF OPEN SIGHTS RIFLE SILHOUETTE

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 3:28 pm
by lone ringer
hermit5 wrote: Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:53 am Loneringer,thank you for your effort to promote this new game.It’s a worthy discipline to be considered by entry level shooters and something new for longtime silhouette enthusiasts.
Ridgway has included the Open Sight Sporter Rifle in the monthly Leveraction matches.
In addition,following your lead,it was also included in as an event the ( Day After)conclusion of Leveraction Nationals
Thursday June 22.This precedes the weekend Sierra Classic HP Silhouette Regional.So those staying after Leveraction Nationals and shooting HP can have one more event on the days off.This could be considered a warmup for your match at Raton in July.
I don’t know if I can gather the sponsors you have acquired but will try.Also following your lead,anyone wishing to donate a door prize for this event can submit to the Open Sight Sporter match directors via the Ridgway website.
I am glad to see that Ridgway is doing the same as us at Raton, NM this summer. Best of luck and I hope you get a good turnout!
It only makes sense that the Sporter open sight match follows the SB lever action match, I suggested to do the same and have it at the end of the Western Lever Action Championships but the WC calendar was already done for this year and my match had to be scheduled the day before the Western LA championships. I will talk to Jim about it for next year.

Re: SPORTING .22 RF OPEN SIGHTS RIFLE SILHOUETTE

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 1:11 am
by lone ringer
Entries to the Sporting .22 Open Sights event have been coming in since last week. I have already received ten entries and hope to receive a lot more.
Keep them coming guys and gals. Lets make this event just as popular or more than Lever Action and .22BPCRA. An excellent sport for newbies and veterans like me without having to expend a lot of money on equipment.
Tony Tello, started shooting rifle HP silhouette official matches in 1978 and still have the passion for the sport, just wish there were matches near me.

Re: SPORTING .22 RF OPEN SIGHTS RIFLE SILHOUETTE

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:26 pm
by hermit5
Heads up on possible future of 22 Leveraction.At todays Sportsman’s show in Salamanca,NY at Seneca Casino I saw 3 Marlin 39A.
All were over $1000, yup,not kidding.Therefore it looks like this 22 is following in footsteps of SB scope for expense of equipment.
IMO,this justifies promoting Open Sight Sporter during SB Leveraction matches,( not nationals or big matches,just local to bring in new shooters).There are options besides the Marlin just saying its getting pricey for certain guns.No 30-30 brass or bullets of any kind.

Re: SPORTING .22 RF OPEN SIGHTS RIFLE SILHOUETTE

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:38 pm
by K Danz
We've been doing this for years at our Club in Sudlersville MD.
Basically, if you have any kind of 22 that doesn't fit an NRA division, bring it.
Very popular and yes it is a way to bring in new shooters who may want to try the other sanctioned disciplines.
We shoot iron sights on 1/2 size rimfire lever rifle targets.
We also have a scoped division, but you have to shoot on the heavier pistol cartridge targets. Scopes are limited to no more than 4X. Variables ok as long long as it is set to 4X or less. That way when you get to rams, you gotta be selective where you want to hit them. Hyper velocity ammo is OK, but isn't 100% either.
Just a way to suck folks in. Really popular with juniors.

Re: SPORTING .22 RF OPEN SIGHTS RIFLE SILHOUETTE

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:28 pm
by lone ringer
K Danz wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:38 pm We've been doing this for years at our Club in Sudlersville MD.
Basically, if you have any kind of 22 that doesn't fit an NRA division, bring it.
Very popular and yes it is a way to bring in new shooters who may want to try the other sanctioned disciplines.
We shoot iron sights on 1/2 size rimfire lever rifle targets.
We also have a scoped division, but you have to shoot on the heavier pistol cartridge targets. Scopes are limited to no more than 4X. Variables ok as long long as it is set to 4X or less. That way when you get to rams, you gotta be selective where you want to hit them. Hyper velocity ammo is OK, but isn't 100% either.
Just a way to suck folks in. Really popular with juniors.
That is great that you guys are doing basically the same thing with the exception that this new discipline calls for factory unaltered sporter/hunting rifles with open sights and not any type of iron sights like (peep/receiver and tang). In the future if this catches up I may offer a scope class for the same kind of sporter/hunting rifles with scopes magnification no more than 4X (variables OK) and no adjusting the elevation and or windage once the match starts.
There is a local match near me that has been doing pretty much the same thing you guys are doing. It is for any .22 with iron sights and they shoot 1/2 size targets although their distances are not exactly 40, 50,75 and 100 meters. Distances are more like 40,60, 77 and 90 meters. They get a fair amount of shooters and have pretty much given up shooting the SB rifle silhouette shooting the 1/5 size targets although they still have the stands, gongs and targets. They are just not up to the challenge of shooting the smaller targets any more.