new silhouette classifications

[hugh]

well if centerfire stuff is any indication it will be ONE card for ONE class. My F-open long range classification is on one card, the other F open mid range is another card, same with FTR and Service rifle. I will be begging for the books to return. That book is sweet, it has all my scores for the year, all my classifications, all the numbers, AND I have kept all of my books since I started. What a great record. I'm just sayin I didn't think it was broken.......but no one asked me.........

[hermit5]

I have a sneaking suspicion that it maybe (example silhouette $4.50 for SB 2 guns,$4.50 for HP 2 guns,Leveraction $4.50 3 guns,would be equal to what we pay now $13.50 but if you add any more disaplines its more.

Now lets say they go with $4.50 per gun thats $31.50).

I hope i am wronge but we are talking about Wash DC beltway boys here and that type of thinking.
It may be about money.

[cslcAl]

I have contacted Dennis Willing to get the details of this change. He is out of the office till Monday. He is going to email me the info, and I will share it with you all then.
In the meantime try an not over speculate your selves into a tizzy fit.
Al Foust

[DavidABQ]

In the meantime try an not over speculate your selves into a tizzy fit.
Al Foust

Getting into a tizzy fit is most of the fun!

[DavidABQ]

For those in Colorado being a "High Master" has a couple of meanings now.

[hermit5]

It tizz what it tizz until Monday,(Willing) the outcome is good news.

[rogersptl]

I suspect the 'new' system will require the per shooter fee in all approved matches as in 3P, Hipower etc. I'm with the 'didnt think it was broken' crew. Silhouette is all standing off-hand so how can the Master HP-NRA across the course compare to the Master silhouette shooter when in NRA they shoot only 1/4 of the score standing and then do that with heavy jackets, gloves and pants? I think it is all for the additional funds per shooter and hope I'm wrong. Happy Easter all.

[cslcAl]

It tizz what it tizz until Monday,(Willing) the outcome is good news.

Cute!

[jloehle]

I wonder if all matches will have to be registered matches now. We always ran sanctioned/approved matches.

Joe

[GTS]

I may be mistaken, but I don't see anything in Willing's column that mentions the silhouette committee, nor anything giving them credit for this proposed change. Also, I have never heard this discussed at any national silhouette match competitors meetings. As we all know, it almost takes an act of God to get a rule changed by the silhouette committee. How then does it happen that a sweeping change to the entire system is being put in place and no one has heard anything about it? Makes you wonder why....oh yeah... MONEY!!!

I don't shoot any NRA events other than silhouette, so I am not sure how the whole classification card system works. Are they renewed (paid for) annually, or are they good until you are reclassified? If I shoot 2 HP, 2 SB, 3 CB and 3 AR, do I pay a fee for each one of these? If so, this whole thing seems like nothing more than a revenue generator for NRA. If the cost is $4.50 per card, as someone mentioned, I will go from one $13.00 book to ten $4.50 cards, which means I pay an additional $32 a year for the privilege.

As has been said, If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

[GregG]

Interesting.... I guess they could not go for oldest, older, old, and young.

[Bob Mc Alice]

I guess this is how we will fill out the current score sheet?

HM.....M.....E.....S.....MK.....U




Big state match turn out, eh?

[BrentD]

I may be mistaken, but I don't see anything in Willing's column that mentions the silhouette committee, nor anything giving them credit for this proposed change. Also, I have never heard this discussed at any national silhouette match competitors meetings. As we all know, it almost takes an act of God to get a rule changed by the silhouette committee. How then does it happen that a sweeping change to the entire system is being put in place and no one has heard anything about it? Makes you wonder why....oh yeah... MONEY!!!

I don't shoot any NRA events other than silhouette, so I am not sure how the whole classification card system works. Are they renewed (paid for) annually, or are they good until you are reclassified? If I shoot 2 HP, 2 SB, 3 CB and 3 AR, do I pay a fee for each one of these? If so, this whole thing seems like nothing more than a revenue generator for NRA. If the cost is $4.50 per card, as someone mentioned, I will go from one $13.00 book to ten $4.50 cards, which means I pay an additional $32 a year for the privilege.

As has been said, If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

The BPTR game (long range black powder cartridge and muzzleloading rifles) uses the card system. You get a card in the mail when you are promoted to the next class (at least I did). It's good forever apparently. I don't think the card actually matters any more than an NRA plastic membership card matters. But what does happen is now there is an official record that shooter X is class Y in a central data base. With the book system, the NRA really has no idea and has to trust that the shooter's own book accurately depicts his or her class. Of course, it would be easy to fake that in any book, and with no central database, there is no way that anyone could know.

I'm really not sure what all the fuss is about. Personally, I don't think it matters more than a very small hill of beans one way or the other.

[GTS]

Brent,

As I mentioned in my post you quoted, I don't know much about the card system. That's why my post was mainly questions for which I would like answers. In the card system currently used in BPTR, what scores are sent to NRA, local club matches, approved or registered matches? I am also curious about the extra work for the match directors. I have enough to do preparing for and running our club matches. I don't really want more record keeping handed to me. It may turn out to be a wonderful thing, it just doesn't seem necessary to me.

Greg

[BrentD]

Brent,

As I mentioned in my post you quoted, I don't know much about the card system. That's why my post was mainly questions for which I would like answers. In the card system currently used in BPTR, what scores are sent to NRA, local club matches, approved or registered matches?

I can't say for sure. Registered matches but I don't know of any others, as I do not shoot any there are none registered (because they are not available).

I am also curious about the extra work for the match directors. I have enough to do preparing for and running our club matches. I don't really want more record keeping handed to me. It may turn out to be a wonderful thing, it just doesn't seem necessary to me.

I don't know that either. I can't see it being a really big problem but I suppose any bureaucracy can turn a simple thing into a complex thing.

I can just say that the card system is that for a competitor, the card system is very simple and effective. Because the records are kept centrally, you can also look up your classification on the NRA competitions website and confirm it is what you believe it to be. Since it works for BPTR, then I do not see a particularly obvious reason why it would not work for BPCR or CLAS or whatever.

As with most things, the devil will be found (or not) in the details. But right off the bat, the sun is shining, the temps are rising, and I see no reason to worry. Smile- be happy!