Boron Nitride

[Bigfoot]

Has anyone played with this stuff?

One of my friends at work came across this stuff on David Tubb's page (kit he sells for $49.95) and I checked out the youtube videos.

I never took to using Moly due to the mess and having to do 2 steps but this stuff sounds like it may have promise. No issues with humidity supposedly and consistant first shot hitting in the group as opposed to lower etc. Higher smoke point than moly.

Is this stuff too good to be true? I guess it's more common in high power across the course from what I'm reading online but wonder if it would help extend barrel life and or cleaning increments for our barrells.

[GregG]

Coated bullets have been in and out of favor your years. About 10 years ago you could not get on a form that did not spell out the advantages of coated bullets (moly or Boron Nitride). I made my decision based on my personnel research:

1) Most of the major barrel makers, they do not recommend coated bullets some where even voiding warranties.
2) A pistol barrel maker reported no rifling in a 45 barrel after less than 1/4 life.
3) If they where really better at accuracy, clean up, etc the bench-rest community would use the exclusively. None of the shooters I know use it.
4) I can shoot longer between cleanings, OK but now you have copper, carbon, and coating the clean out of your barrel
5) Sierra told me they did not buy it but provided the bullets because customers demanded it at the time (I understand they have dropped the option today).

The only advantage, I can see if you can get more velocity with a coated bullet and some of the cross the course shooters are focused on flight time. So faster is better.

I am going to call snake oil on the idea a waster of time and money. But I am sure someone else will disagree.

Greg

[Gleedaniel13]

The only advantage, I can see if you can get more velocity with a coated bullet and some of the cross the course shooters are focused on flight time. So faster is better.

I am going to call snake oil on the idea a waster of time and money. But I am sure someone else will disagree.

Greg

Of course the faster the bullet the better it is. You can have more damage if it is more fast.

[Snake]

Having some experience with 'snake oil' allow me to point out some interesting history: Back in the late 20s and early 30s the US army rifle team happened upon a bullet lube made by Mobil....a little wipe on the projectile prior to firing did it all, that is higher velocity, more consistent groups, no fouling. Then Julian Hatcher the head of Ordinance started getting 1903's with broken bolts and injured soldiers. The bolts on the '03s were breaking!!!! They discovered that too much of the miracle lube was being dabbed on the bullets and migrated into the chamber. The brass then did not adhere to the chamber and came fully 60000 psi against the bolts and they broke. No more lube was used again. A number of years ago a bench rest guru came up with a non petroleum goo that did all the great things....well it eventually fizzled too. Moly and other dry coatings are the rage...their actual benefit is with worn or rough bores otherwise they're just messy JU-Ju . If it works for you and you believe then what can anyone say

[Bigfoot]

Good points and history guys.

I was wondering why I hadn't come across it before I was perusing Mr Tubbs website. One of our elder statesmen was explaining to me at our HP match this last weekend that it might work in his rifles as he's using some funky type of rifling rather than cut or buttoned. Anywho. Saved me a few bucks and hours of experimenting. I'll stick with naked Lapua bullets until I get a wild hair to try something else again.