Anschutz 1712 Bolt Disassembly

[Jason]

I got one of the Wolff firing pin springs for my new 1712 at the last match from Larry Steiner (Thanks Larry!) and was going to put it in last night. The problem is that I can't get my bolt apart. According to the user manual, it's as simple as removing the bolt from the rifle, cocking it (that was accomplished by lifting the bolt handle to remove the bolt from the rifle), and then just lifting the rear shroud straight up and off. Well, that just ain't the case with this one and logic says it can't be that easy with any of them or the rear shroud would just fall off anytime you cycled the action. Pressing in the little thing at the base of the bolt handle didn't help either. What am I missing here? There's got to be some little detail that I'm not doing right. If it helps, feel free to point out similarities to other bolts that I'm accustomed to like Mauser, Rem 700, Savage, etc.

Thanks!

[Jerry G]

Pull the bolt out with your right hand and with your left hand, turn the rear shroud about 1/2 turn until the thing points straight down and the red arrow points at the blank space to the right of the S. Now pull straight back on the shroud and its apart.

Remember to cock it before you put it back in the rifle.

The spring should be replaced about once every year.

I hope this is as clear to you as it is to me.

[Ramslammer]

G'Day
I think you need to DE cock it.
Juddy

[stsbuyer]

Jerry,

You change the spring in your 1712 every year? I purchased mine used about 7 years ago and have yet to change the spring. I would estimate that I have put in excess of 70,000 thru this rifle with only a couple of FTF. I think that the couple of FTF were an ammo problem and not the gun. This is my opion but I do not think that a coil spring would need to be replaced every year. I would be interested to know what Anschutz would say.

Later, Paul

[jneihouse]

What about the shocks and turn signal fluid??????

[Jason]

I don't think I've ever let a hammer or firing pin spring get to the point of having FTFs before I replace it. I'm more concerned with lock time and accuracy. That's why I'm changing this one out now.

[stsbuyer]

I don't think I've ever let a hammer or firing pin spring get to the point of having FTFs before I replace it. I'm more concerned with lock time and accuracy. That's why I'm changing this one out now.

Jason,

I am talking about 3 or 4 FTF in 70,000+ rounds and none that I can remember in the last 20,000. Do you think it was the firing pin spring that caused the few I had or ammo? I may change my sping also, just do not think it is something that needs to be done very often and doubt any manufacture would say every year.

My 2cents, Paul

[Jason]

Pull the bolt out with your right hand and with your left hand, turn the rear shroud about 1/2 turn until the thing points straight down and the red arrow points at the blank space to the right of the S. Now pull straight back on the shroud and its apart.

Remember to cock it before you put it back in the rifle.

The spring should be replaced about once every year.

I hope this is as clear to you as it is to me.

Yep. That was very clear, much clearer than the Anschutz manual. Turning the rear shroud took a bit more force than I was willing to put on it last night before I had confirmed what needed to be done with someone who had actually done it. The safety on the rifle takes a good shove with thumb and finger to change positions, so it's not really a surprise that it takes that much force to turn the rear shroud to the correct position to remove it. I just didn't want to risk breaking my new gun before I knew I was doing the right thing.

[jneihouse]

Rotatiing the scope know covers every 5000 rounds will extend service life of your scope also.......Sorry couldn't resist......

[atomicbrh]

STSBuyer: I am in agreement with you about not changing firing pin springs in any Anschutz. According to both Anschutz Warranty repair Centers in America, the firing pin spring is the last part to wear out or break and the firing pin spring is the only part that is almost never replaced even on very old Anschutz rifles. When I asked them, both said it is a waste of money and time, just keep the bolt clean and well lubricated inside and out. They said a new spring will not improve lock time by an amount that can be quantitated by any machine. We put between 15 and 20,000 rounds total through two 1700 Series rifles each year and completely detail strip, clean and relube once every three months. That includes cleaning the firing pin channel with long cotton swabs and taking the firing pin spring off of the firing pin to remove any debris and clean the firing pin well. I also turn the firing pin spring retainer 180 degrees on assembly to even wear on the firing pin. I do not know if this really helps or not but it cannot hurt. By the way I do change the main springs quite frequently on 1911 Handguns compared to the Anschutz firing pin springs but that is a very different animal.

Bobby R. Huddleston

[jneihouse]

Now we're all pretty sure our springs on on the verge of imminent failure....Thanks a lot Jason As if golbal warming wasn't enough to worry about.........

[dryfire]

Jason
I couldn't help asking. Is your 1712 an Anschutz/Walther hybrid. I keep
several springs on hand for my KKMS and I've replaced two in 100,000
rounds. I keep shooting it because I like the ergonomics. With a better
stock on my 54.18 I'd shoot it all the time with my new 1712.
My 54.18 has about 150,000 thru it and still holds 1-1.25 MOA.
Come to think of it I have a Mcmillan stock in mothballs I could drop it into.

Dryfire

[Jason]

My 1712 started life as a new barreled action bought new way back in April of this year. I got it from Neal Stepp and just had him ship over to Mark Pharr to wait until he got around to bedding it into one of his custom stocks. My number finally came up a month or so ago. So to answer your question, I don't think my gun is any kind of hybrid, unless you consider the barreled action is factory and the stock and other metal is custom.

[stsbuyer]

My 1712 started life as a new barreled action bought new way back in April of this year. I got it from Neal Stepp and just had him ship over to Mark Pharr to wait until he got around to bedding it into one of his custom stocks. My number finally came up a month or so ago. So to answer your question, I don't think my gun is any kind of hybrid, unless you consider the barreled action is factory and the stock and other metal is custom.

Jason,

If you purchased the barreled action earlier this year and just took delivery of it a couple of months ago why do you think it needs a new firing pin spring? Are you having FTF, if so it may be from another problem and not the firing pin spring. Good luck, Paul

[Jason]

Hmm.. evidently I wasn't as clear as I thought I was. I replaced it because the factory spring is fine, but the Wolff spring is better. It's more consistent as far as dimensions along the wire and is stronger. Sorry man, but I had enough materials and structural engineering classes in college to know that metal fatigues no matter how good it is. I doubt I'll replace the Wolff spring every year, but probably every two or three depending on how much shooting time I get in. I'll probably shoot this new gun ten times as much as I shoot all my other guns combined, and I've had factory and after market springs get worn out in other guns so I'm sure it will happen in this one. I'm sure the Anschutz factory spring might be very good, but I'm kinda doubting that they've somehow figured out how to avoid metal fatigue altogether.