loads wanted for new 6.5 x 47

[fwt1712]

My new heavy rifle will be here soon (Rem 700, Tobler barrel 25" 1:8 twist, McMillan Anschutz stock + Leupold EFR).

I hope to use Hodgdon powders - they're made in Oz and the easiest powder to get in Tasmania.

What loads have people found to work best - any and all advice appreciated.

regards,
Nigel.

[Evelio Mc Donald]

So far 36.00 gr. of Varget at 2830 fps for c p t works fine with the Sierra 107, for rams 39 gr. of Reloader 22 over the 139 Lapua or Sierra 142 at 2550 fps. also works real good. I am still experimenting, I want to drop the velocity to about 2650 fps on the 107, and increase the ram load to 2650 fps also. From previous testing once you drop the velocity on the 107 the accuracy starts to decrease.
Waiting for better weather to continue testing
Evelio

[carl425]

I'm shooting 108's with 36 gr of RL-15 (2935 fps) at the CP&T and 139's with 36 gr of N-150 (2650 fps) at the rams. I'm using BR-4 primers with both.

I'd be worried about only 2650 fps with the 107/108's. I've hit a few pigs with mine that had to think about it for a second before they went over. I don't hit enough to waste any. Besides, the recoil is very tolerable so I don't see any reason to slow down.

[morerams]

to start try 33.5 of 2206H with 107 Lapua's, accuracy not startling(MOA) might need more powder.
with 139 Lapua's 34 of 2208, less than .5MOA.
Haven't shot rams with it yet and don't have velocity with either yet.

[Evelio Mc Donald]

Shooting anything above 2800 fps will cut the barrel life by half, at 3000 fps or above, you will be lucky to get 1000 rounds out of that barrel, If the c p t are set in regulation stands, and no mud on the bases, you should not have any problem nocking them down with slower velocities. I also shot at someplaces where the targets were made out of thicker steel than regulation, and everybody had problems nocking them down.
Evelio.

[timfinle]

If you feel there is an issue with knocking over the CPT, move up to a 120 mk. At 2700 ft/s the 120's knock down the pigs easily. The difference in recoil is not much. You could use 107's for c and t, and use the 120's for pigs if recoil is a problem. Then go to 140's for the rams at 2600.

Personally, I use 120's for cpt and 140's for rams without any recoil issues. Man, if you want to feel recoil, you should try Johns 30-06. The only thing that would make it more spectacular is a 2' flame out the end of the barrel. I can shoot 40 targets with it, but, I do feel it the next day. With my 260, I do not feel anything the next day.

[Evelio Mc Donald]

Tim, when are you going to put a Pharr stock on your pea shooter to match your small bore rifle ?????
No need for me to go to the 120, I never had any problems getting them down with the 107, MY BIGGEST PROBLEM IS HITTING THEM.
Regards Evelio.

[Bob259]

Tim, when are you going to put a Pharr stock on your pea shooter to match your small bore rifle ?????
No need for me to go to the 120, I never had any problems getting them down with the 107, MY BIGGEST PROBLEM IS HITTING THEM.
Regards Evelio.

Boy Evelio if your having a hard time hitting them I can't wait to see how bad I do..... You may want to film it, naw on second thought you better not, it's not a pretty sight to see a grown man cry.

[timfinle]

Evelio,

Man, do I ever need to put a Pharr stock on my 260. I truly feel that I can not get a comfortable hold with the standard Rem stock. Well, not compared to my pharr or annie stock.

Steve told me that they are breaking the old pharr mold and there won't be any pharr stocks available for a while.

Hopefully I can do that this summer after the states.

I know you are busy, what with bear's 504's and all. lol

Are you up to putting a new stock and bedding it in for me? Maybe a trigger?

[carl425]

Personally, I use 120's for cpt and 140's for rams without any recoil issues. Man, if you want to feel recoil, you should try Johns 30-06. The only thing that would make it more spectacular is a 2' flame out the end of the barrel. I can shoot 40 targets with it, but, I do feel it the next day. With my 260, I do not feel anything the next day.

Hi Tim,

I'm curious why you shoot the 120's and 140's when the 123's and 142's have such better BC's?

Evelio,

Are you implying we have fat pigs here in VA?

I actually hadn't thought about barrel life. How much difference in barrel life do you think there is between 107's at 2900 vs 2700? Would 123's at 2600 be easier on the barrel than 107's at 2900?

[Evelio Mc Donald]

Tim
I will be more than glad to re-stock your High Power rifle any time you are ready. The new mold for the Pharr RT/S stock is ready, and they are back in production.
Carl
I am not a balistician, but any time you push a bullet over 2700 fps the erosion in the throat of the chamber gets worse as the speed increases. If you fired 5 or 10 rounds at high speed every once in a while it would probably won't matter much, but when you fire 200 to 300 over a two days match 5 or 6 times a year plus some practice in between, I will be ready to bet that the barrel will be gone in about 1 1/2 years. ( 1500 rounds )
You can compare it to what happens to an engine when you run at 1800 rpm or 4000 rpm, which do you think will were out faster ????
This is only my personal opinion, and I will love to hear what other experinced High Power shooters have to say.
Somebody like David Tubbs or Troy Lawton will sure have an instant answer.
Evelio.

[timfinle]

carl,

that is a good question. When I started reloading for the 260 I was given a good load by the ex owner of the rifle and have modified the powder for better ram accuracy. The 120 was not as accurate as the 140's but, I have 800 of them so.... Also, I have 400 140's so I am going to shoot these up. After they are gone I will purchase 123's and 142's and have bruno's moly coat them for me. Maybe I might just purchse 142's. I will have to check to see if they are as accurate as the 140's

I feel that by keeping the 120's to 2700 and 140's (maybe future 123's and 142's moly coated) at 2600 ft/s I am prolonging the barrel life while getting a good push on the targets. When the barrel is gone I will send it to Evelio for a new match 6.5 barrel of his recommendation.

[morerams]

You could also try 38 grains of AR2209 with 139 Lapua's, my wife has had 100% success so far 17 hits, 17 rams down. 5 in practice at Brisbane and 12 in competition at Canberra.

[fwt1712]

Is that you Allan?

Have you tried 2208 or 2209 with any of the lighter projectiles?

Or do you think you need to go to 2006H to get into the right burn rate with these lighter projectiles?

I haven't used any 2006H but of you think it's worth it I'll get some.

thanks,
Nigel.

[morerams]

Hi Nigel,
I haven,t had time for more experimenting since Canberra, but when using lightish loads in anything I usually use powders towards the faster end of the range suitable for the cartridge, and I have always had good results with 2206 in the past.